Hi Esther,

No you were perfectly clear.  It has been a long time since I have done a fresh 
install of iTunes as well.  I change that setting and probably just forgot.  
lol.  

Thank you for taking the time to respond.  
On Feb 1, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Ricardo,
> 
> I believe that the default rules for the "Recently Added" smart playlist are:
> 1. Date Added is in the last 2 weeks
> 2. Media Kind is not Podcast
> You can change any of these rules for this smart playlist or create a new 
> version of the smart playlist with modified rules and a new name to suit your 
> own selections.  Occasionally the original smart playlists fail to update.  
> You can certainly reset the rules, as you did, to limit the size of the list 
> by number, by adding additional rules, or by modifying the existing rules.  
> However, I believe that the "Recently Added" smart playlist that comes 
> predefined for iTunes selects all content that has been added within the last 
> two weeks that is not a podcast.  (I could be wrong about this; it's a long 
> time since I started a completely clean iTunes account).
> 
> The smart playlist that I described was specifically for streams, however.  I 
> should add that I also sometimes create smart playlists as a fast way of 
> finding content and then delete them once I'm through.
> 
> Hope this answers your question.  Write back if there's some point I didn't 
> respond to in sufficient detail.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> Hi Ester,
>> 
>> Is this just streams that last 2 weeks in the recently added list?  I'm 
>> asking because I've had things on my recently added list for months.  I have 
>> it set to show the 150 most recently added items to iTunes.
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2010, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Yes, going to your "Recently Added" playlist is a great general way of 
>>> finding recent content.  This tip is not limited to streams, but also helps 
>>> you find anything that has just been added to iTunes (within the last two 
>>> weeks, and not a podcast), so it's particularly useful to find content 
>>> which was added, but which lacks tagging information.  You can select these 
>>> items and use "Get Info" (Command-I) to add this information.  I was going 
>>> to suggest using "Recently Added", but it struck me that some people may 
>>> have played other streams in the past (i.e., added more than 2 weeks ago) 
>>> and wondered where they went.  Creating a smart playlist that shows all 
>>> streams is a good way to solve that problem.  Thanks for the suggestion, 
>>> Ricardo; it's a good one.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2010, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Or you can also go to your "Recently Added playlist".  Depending on how 
>>>> you have your fields sorted, ascending, or descending, it will be near the 
>>>> top or bottom of the list.
>>>> On Feb 1, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Esther wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Mary, Donna, Mark, and Others,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The other way to locate streams that have been placed in the iTunes music 
>>>>> library (in case you weren't able to use Command-L for the stream while 
>>>>> it was playing) is to use the smart playlist feature and with a rule like 
>>>>> "Kind contains stream".  From anywhere in iTunes, press Command-Option-N 
>>>>> to create a new smart playlist.  You'll hear "smart playlist, selected 
>>>>> by".  Then, VO-Right arrow so that you hear "rules section" and interact 
>>>>> (VO-Shift-Down arrow), in order to supply a rule or rules for inclusion 
>>>>> in the smart play list.  You'll be on the pop up button that says 
>>>>> "Artist".  Use VO-Space and then press "k" to change this to "Kind" in 
>>>>> the menu for the pop up, then press return to commit this change.  
>>>>> VO-Right arrow past the pop up button for "Contains" to the text field 
>>>>> and type in "stream" without the quotation marks.  Then press return to 
>>>>> commit all changes and leave the smart playlist.  You'll be prompted in a 
>>>>> "Name Playlist" dialog window to enter a name for your playlist.  The 
>>>>> name "stream" will be entered as the default suggestion, but you can type 
>>>>> in your own selection.  Press return to commit your changes.  Now, there 
>>>>> will be a smart playlist in your sources table named "stream" or whatever 
>>>>> title you assigned.  If you want this to appear at the top of your smart 
>>>>> playlist entries, add a hyphen to the start of  the name you choose, 
>>>>> since all playlists appear ordered alphabetically by category in the 
>>>>> sources table.  A playlist name like that is preceded by a hyphen or 
>>>>> other character that appears alphabetically before letters or numbers 
>>>>> will show up first in the list of smart playlists, before default smart 
>>>>> playlists like "recently played".
>>>>> 
>>>>> Downloaded files with names like "listen.pls" or "listen-1.pls" don't 
>>>>> show up as playlists in iTunes.  Instead, their contents appear as 
>>>>> streams in the music library.  The list of iTunes radio streams is fixed 
>>>>> to only include the streams that appear in that category.  However, you 
>>>>> can construct your own playlists of streams.  Use either the context menu 
>>>>> for selections and "add to playlist" or copy and paste the entries to a 
>>>>> playlist.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The usual difficulty people have is locating the streams after they have 
>>>>> been added -- hence, Mark suggested using Command-L to track the stream 
>>>>> as it is playing.  The smart playlist solution is a quick way to find all 
>>>>> streams in your library -- including the ones that got added before you 
>>>>> could identify the tracks.  Then, you can use "Get Info" (Command-I) and 
>>>>> navigate to the "Info" tab for the entry to add tag information or even 
>>>>> your own comments to make these streams easier to locate for iTunes 
>>>>> searches.  Or, you can simply go back to your "stream" or "-stream" 
>>>>> (that's the same name, "stream", but with a hyphen preceding the name) 
>>>>> smart playlist to locate your streams.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My description of creating the smart playlist was a bit sloppy from a 
>>>>> pedagogic point of view -- if you use VO-Space instead of pressing return 
>>>>> to select pop up menu items you don't run the risk of exiting the smart 
>>>>> playlist early.  (VO-Space is used to "perform the default action").  And 
>>>>> you should really stop interacting with the rules sections (VO-Shift Up 
>>>>> Arrow) then navigate (e.g. with VO-Right arrow) to the "OK" button and 
>>>>> press it with VO-Space to nicely view the other smart playlist options 
>>>>> and commit the changes to the smart playlist.  Because I'm familiar with 
>>>>> the smart playlist menu structure, I  press the return key to commit my 
>>>>> changes and exit the menu whenever I'm finished setting specifications 
>>>>> and I press the escape key to cancel actions and quit instead of 
>>>>> navigating to the "Cancel" button and pressing it with VO-Space.   For a 
>>>>> detailed description of smart playlists in iTunes, see the (long) 
>>>>> archived post titled "Introduction to Smart Playlists (long)" at:
>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg01294.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTH
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Esther
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2010, Mary Otten wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks, Mark. You rock! Itunes let me make a playlist with the current 
>>>>>> song, so that should do it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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