I use artificial sight, and i will put it like this, the iphone shines, the 
android phone crimes.
If people dont want apple , by god let them change, either you drive an Audi or 
an old Toyota, just remember if your life is on the line, dont you want the 
very best money can buy?
Right now i strongly believe its apple, i dont even think android have phones 
that comes close as in ram and cpu... but i could be wrong about that one 
My only reason to use android is, it is open, and i will admit that, it is a 
good testing platform.


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> On 25 Jan 2019, at 07.39, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well,
> Even if apple were to dispense with their computer/datapad/idevice lines, 
> they would still be profitable as a cloud storage and electronic publisher 
> with at least $150 billion annually in sales. One other thing they could do, 
> bring back licensed OS X on third party hardware and then just produce a 
> supported hardware index. This would allow them to sell their OS X for just 
> under $30 and still maintain quality control of the OS. Mind you, this is 
> similar to the windows software model, only the hardware would be a bit more 
> limited (like certain brands or models of video hardware, CPU/motherboard 
> combos, sound devices, etc.). Back in ’08, I used to run a “Hackintosh” here 
> using OS X Leopard (10.4) and snow leopard. Nice OS when you used the right 
> hardware (like an Nvidia GTX-9600 or later video card, Intel multicore cpu 
> (pre i5) on an ASUS IL-9 Pro Motherboard and a True SoundBlaster Audigy Pro 
> device with built-in Firewire and DSP.  Btw, I still have that machine here 
> and I use it for some things that don’t require the latest OS to run. It is 
> still a beast (it can run the latest world of warships or world of tanks and 
> can even handle the latest world of warcraft). I know, my room mate uses it 
> when his windows machine can’t handle the load. Not too shabby for a machine 
> that’s 10 years old! :)
> 
> Anyway, Apple is far from dead, but they are not going to be able to sustain 
> their current business model without some significant changes.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2019, at 2:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'd be surprised if apples end is even close to near.
>> 
>> Remember they have a shit load of dollars to last them along time.
>> 
>> Their trouble is that the brains of the outfit didn't leave anyone else to 
>> follow with the injanuity!
>> There is still time to find that missing link.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2019 2:41 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The End Of Apple, Forbes Magazine
>> 
>> Well, I hope he's wrong about Apple's end being near, but what he describes 
>> is certainly true in our house.  I used to upgrade just about every year.  
>> But I did not upgrade this past year, and I'm thinking about sitting out 
>> next year, too.  If I'm going to pay $1000 for a phone, I definitely want 
>> more than one year's use out of it.  While I'm happy to spend a little more 
>> to support Apple because of all they've done for accessibility, my bank 
>> account isn't bottomless.  You'd think someone at Apple would be putting all 
>> this together.  It's one thing to charge top dollar because you can get it.  
>> But if products aren't selling, then they need to revise their business 
>> model.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2019, at 11:17 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The End Of Apple
>>> By Stephen McBride
>>> 
>>> "Oh man, that's almost a month's rent for me."
>>> Here I am sitting in a cab in New York City.
>>> I'm headed uptown to Columbia University where we'll hold the 
>>> first-ever American Disruption Summit. (You can register to watch for 
>>> free here.) The driver and I are talking about the absurd price tag of 
>>> the latest Apple
>>> (AAPL) iPhone.
>>> He's shocked when I tell him the cheapest model is $1,149.
>>> "Who can afford that?" he asks.
>>> 
>>> Apple's Imminent Crash Has Begun
>>> Apple has had an incredible decade.
>>> Since the iPhone debuted in 2007, the company's sales have jumped tenfold.
>>> The stock has soared over 700%.
>>> And up until last November, it was the world's largest publicly traded 
>>> company.
>>> But two weeks ago, Apple issued a rare warning that shocked investors.
>>> For the first time since 2002, the company slashed its earnings forecast.
>>> The stock plunged 10% for its worst day in six years.
>>> This capped off a horrible few months in which Apple stock crashed 
>>> about 35% from its November peak.
>>> 
>>> That erased $446 billion in shareholder value-the biggest wipeout of 
>>> wealth in a single stock ever.
>>> And it's only the beginning.
>>> Apple's Strong Revenue Growth Hides a Dirty Secret If you looked at 
>>> Apple's sales numbers, you wouldn't see anything wrong.
>>> Since 2001, Apple has seen steady revenue growth:
>>> 
>>> By this measure, Apple's business seems perfectly healthy. But there's 
>>> a secret hidden behind these headline numbers.
>>> Despite the revenue growth, Apple is selling fewer iPhones every year.
>>> In fact, iPhone unit sales peaked way back in 2015. Last year, Apple 
>>> sold 14 million fewer phones than it did three years ago.
>>> Apple Kept Revenue Growth Only by Raising iPhone Prices In 2010, you 
>>> could buy a brand-new iPhone 4 for 199 bucks.
>>> In 2014, the newly released iPhone 6 cost 299 bucks.
>>> Today the cheapest model of the latest iPhone X costs $1,149!
>>> It's a 500% hike from what Apple charged eight years ago.
>>> But technology always gets cheaper over time.
>>> Not so long ago, a flat-screen high-definition TV was a luxury. Even a 
>>> small one cost thousands of dollars. Today you can get a 55-inch one 
>>> from Best Buy for $500.
>>> In 1984, Motorola sold the first cell phone for $4,000. The average 
>>> price for a smartphone today is $320, according to research firm IDC.
>>> Cell phone prices have come down roughly 92%. And yet, Apple has hiked 
>>> its smartphone prices by 500%!
>>> Frankly, it's remarkable that Apple has managed to pull this off.
>>> But let me tell you this.
>>> Apple Can't Raise Prices Anymore
>>> It comes down to the lifecycle of disruptive businesses.
>>> Twelve years ago, only 120 million people owned a cell phone. Today 
>>> over five billion people own a smartphone, according to IDC.
>>> Apple was the driving force behind this explosion. As the dominant 
>>> player in a rapidly growing market, it become the most profitable 
>>> publicly traded company in history.
>>> Then iPhone sales growth stalled in 2015. This would've been the end 
>>> for most businesses.
>>> But Apple did a masterful job of extending its prime through price hikes.
>>> Its prestigious brand and army of die-hard fans allowed it to charge 
>>> prices that seemed crazy just a few years ago.
>>> But now iPhone price hikes have gone about as far as they can go.
>>> After all, what's the most you would pay for a smartphone?
>>> $1,500?
>>> $2,000?
>>> 
>>> How bad is this? It's so bad that Apple now keeps it a secret.
>>> In November, Apple announced it would stop disclosing iPhone unit sales.
>>> This is a very important piece of information. Investors deserve to know it.
>>> Yet Apple now keeps it secret.
>>> Keep in Mind, the iPhone is Apple's Crown Jewel iPhone generates 
>>> two-thirds of Apple's overall sales.
>>> Let that sink in.
>>> A publicly traded company that makes most of its money from selling 
>>> phones is no longer telling investors how many phones it sells!
>>> And its other business lines can't pick up the slack for falling 
>>> iPhone sales.
>>> Twenty percent of Apple's revenue comes from iPads and computers. 
>>> Those segments are also stagnant.
>>> Which means 86% of Apple's business is going nowhere.
>>> Could Apple go the other way and slash iPhone prices?
>>> I ran the numbers.
>>> If Apple cut prices back to 2016 levels, it would have to sell 41 
>>> million additional phones just to match 2018's revenue.
>>> 
>>> Will Apple Meet Nokia's Fate?
>>> Before Apple, Nokia (NOK) was king of cell phones.
>>> In 2007 the front-cover headline of a major business magazine read:
>>> "Nokia: One billion customers-can anyone catch the cell phone king?"
>>> The iPhone debuted in 2007. Here's Nokia's stock chart since then:
>>> 
>>> Original Article at:
>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenmcbride1/2019/01/21/the-end-of-app
>>> le/#68
>>> 6fdd936dc0
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