Hi Janina,

I think I'm going to struggle if I travel over there.

 Being gluten free due to health reasons it's bad enough here in NZ to get 
proper gluten free food.

 Soupwith cheese sounds dangerous.


I'm interested in the no SSID situation,

 Could they simply have their SSID's hidden and not realise what they are doing?
And if their networ is so restricted it might be something they do to restrict 
access even further than normal.

Would be worth looking at just to have a play.

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]> 
Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 3:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

Thanks, Simon. No ESSIDs when booted to Mojave. Lots of ESSIDs on Windows and 
Linux.

I don't mind telling you it made me real glad I had Windows and Linux on this 
machine. I was there to work.


And, just to close the loop, the University was putting some strange 
restrictions on the login process. Even their staff couldn't successfully log 
me in on Windows. We had to send my mac address to the University's IT 
department to have me entered as an allowed exception in their firewall tables 
before I actually got access.

That's not the first time I've had unusual difficulties in the U.K. I remember 
a JTC1 Special Working Group on Accessibility meeting some years ago, probably 
a decade or so, that was hosted in London at the British Standards Institute 
(BSI). That place was so locked down they only allowed you out on port 80, i.e. 
all you could do with your computer is surf the web.

Well, I raised a stink. I rely on ssh access to my data center hosted server. 
They took my mac address and gave me port 22 for the duration.


Then there are the various hotel wifi systems around the planet, not so 
restricted these days as they were when wifi was first introduced in hotels. 
TOS agreements seem mostly gone now, thankfully. I never understood that. Could 
you imagine having to sign a TOS to use the electricity? What's the diff?

Anyone, perhaps the funniest part of wifi use in foreign hotels is getting the 
password and login data entered correctly. They want to give you a piece of 
paper, of course. Well, OK, they will be gracious and try to help you in 
person, but it really needs to be in person usually, and not over the phone, 
because they don't usually know the alphabetic character names in English. I've 
had them in my room with the laptop on the desk point my finger to the correct 
key. Example: the letter y was not something my sighted assistant in Malaga 
knew how to say in English!
<grin>

Almost as bad as going through the buffet line with someone who's English 
doesn't usually extend to brockley and stuffed cabbage.

Even though I've digressed, I will add one last thing ... On my way out of the 
country to England I was early to Dulles Airport and was graciously comp'd a 
pass to the British Airways Business Lounge. Lovely.
I enjoyed waiting there. And, I got personal service. The immigrant who waited 
on me tried to be very helpful, but we had to negotiate language difficulty to 
do so, e.g. I was offered "Brooklyn Soup." When I asked what was in it I was 
told "cheese." Cool, I tried it. Turned out to be "Brockley and Cheddar Soup."

Best,

Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hi Janina,
> 
> I knew that I was just being stupido,
> 
>  Just wondering if you could actually see the ssid's for the UK based 
> networks or if you just had nothing?
> 
> I'm assuming you don't have static ip setup on the mac side?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 2:34 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> 
> Hi, Simon:
> 
> I mean the wifi radio in my early 2014 era Mac Airbook didn't work in the 
> U.K. when booted to Mojave. It worked perfectly well when booted to Windows 
> 10 or Linux. And, it's been working perfectly in Mojave since I came home to 
> the U.S.
> 
> That's the weird part and suggests some kind of driver flaw to me.
> That's my best guess, anyway, because it's the only thing that's different?
> 
> 
> Janina
> 
> Simon Fogarty writes:
> > Hi Janina,
> > 
> > I'm kind of confused,
> > Do you mean your USA based WiFi was working for you in the UK on linux but 
> > not on Mac OS?
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2019 1:55 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> > 
> > Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last 
> > week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was 
> > able to use wifi.
> > 
> > What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly, what's 
> > the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I certainly can't 
> > accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
> > 
> > Let me be clear:
> > 
> > 1.) Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
> > States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
> > 
> > 2.) I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get "no 
> > signal." But,
> > if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
> > 
> > 3.) I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.
> > 
> > All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > 
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