Esther: Many thanks. Obviously you're liteyears ahead of me here, but I certainly appreciate the explanation, and I'll start exploring further. Again, thank you.
Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Esther To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:27 PM Subject: Movement keys, especially on laptops [was Re: question about home, end, page up page down] Hi Carolyn, It's much easier to illustrate how to use these keystrokes on the MacBook Pro by taking a practical example of where documentation references "Home" and "End". Let's assume that you've read about movement commands because you want to navigate to the top or bottom of a list. This could, for instance, be the messages table in Mail, because you want to move to the most recent message. Or, perhaps you ran a search of messages on a certain topic by pressing Command-Option-F to move to the search field, then typed in search terms like "bookmarks" or "smart playlists", and then tabbed to the messages table and you now want to read through the entries starting with the earliest message. At this point, after interacting (VO-Shift-Down arrow) with the messages table, you read that VO-Home takes you to the beginning of the table and VO-End takes you to the end of the table. On your MacBook Pro you would press VO-Fn-Shift-Left Arrow in place of VO-Home to move to the beginning of the table and VO-Fn-Shift-Right Arrow in place of VO-End to move to the end of the table. These movement commands really do move to the start and end of the table -- for example, if you want to read the names of senders or the subject or date of the message you'll need to use VO-Right arrow or VO-Left arrow to move back to one of these columns, since VO-Fn-Shift-Right arrow moves focus to the last column of the last row of your displayed table and VO-Fn-Shift-Left arrow moves focus to the first column of the first row of your displayed table. Another thing that I find useful in mail when I want to read up or down a subject thread, but have my messages ordered by date, rather than by thread, is pressing Option-Up arrow or Option-Down arrow to read previous or next messages in the thread. Navigation within documents is a little different, since you don't have a table structure. In that case you can, indeed, as James advises, use Command-Up arrow to move to the top of the document and Command-Down arrow to move to the bottom of a document. Here's a link to one of the archived list posts on shortcut sequences for movement and selection that work in any of Mac's Cocoa apps (TextEdit, Mail, etc. -- most of the apps you use). These are Mac OS X specific: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02038.html ("Moving and Selecting in Cocoa Apps") (there's one typo where "select to beginning of document" appears twice -- my bad for being sloppy with cut and paste, but it's obvious that the second case is meant to be "select to end of document") Also, the example I gave for moving to the top or bottom of the mail messages table can also easily be used for the songs table of iTunes, in exactly the same way (in combination with search, if needed, with exactly the same shortcut sequence of Command-Option-F to go to the search text field). This pattern also works for Finder, if I run a search in list view. In general, you may also want to navigate within the table to specific columns with VO-Right arrow or VO-Left arrow, and you might resort your results in each column with VO-Backslash, where "backslash" is the key at the rightmost key on English input keyboards, just below the delete key and above the return key. (On non-English input keyboards you may need to bring up the Commands menu with VO-H twice, and look for the "Sort" option.) In the mail messages example, I might have wanted to do this to reorder replies according to the name of a sender, or by subject thread. Each time VO-Backslash is applied the sort order of that column will invert between ascending and descending sort order. Make sure that you return your sort to your preferred setting (e.g. "date received") when you're done. HTH. If you have a particular context in mind for using these keys, just ask. Cheers, Esther On Feb 5, 2010, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, This is because on their own they really don't do anything on the mac. For example, in windows, home takes you to the beginning of a line in an edit field, and end takes you to the end of the line. In the mac world, control left arrow takes you to the beginning of the line and control right arrow takes you to the end. Some one will have to enlighten us on the placement of the next and previous page and top and bottom of document commands. unfortunately they are escaping me just now. Carolyn wrote: Chris: It should, but it simply doesn't do anything. Boy do I feel dumb! Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Blouch To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: question about home, end, page up page down Function (which is the bottom-left most key on the whole keyboard layout) and the arrow keys makes up/down into PageUp and PageDown while left becomes Home and right becomes End. Hope that helps. CB Carolyn wrote: Hi Listers: I'm in a quandry. I have a MacBook Pro, and I'm having difficulty locating page up, page down, end and home. I was told they are functionkey plus the arrows, but they don't respond when I try to use them that way. Any clarification would be much appreciated. Alternatively, anyone living neaar Denver Co who might be interested in bringing a very slow rooky along with some tutoring should write me off list. TIA for anything. Carolyn CH:) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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