Hi Petrus,

I tend to have this feature turned off as well.  Depending on the length of the 
call, my level of comfort etc, I, too, often had my iPhone changing to speaker 
phone mode mid-call.  Very annoying and distracting and possibly embarrassing 
if there are others around when it changes over to speaker phone.  There are 
frustrations from ether prospective, but I find it more beneficial to not have 
it go automatically to speaker phone just because I re-positioned the iPhone.  
To each their own though, that's why we have things called "Preferences".

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:07, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Tim,
Thanks for that explanation. I’ve heard about the side button thing before but 
could never get it to work. However I have always had auto select while on call 
 turned on. However I might turn that off now as one thing that was bugging me 
is my phone suddenly changing to speaker phone while I have it against my ear, 
as you can imagine this can be quite loud if you are not expecting it. Not sure 
why it is doing this, maybe the cover on my phone is effecting the proximity 
sensor or I might just have a strange shaped ear. 

> On 22/03/2019, at 4:28 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Because I hate things being unexplained, I did some testing and hear's what 
> I've learned:
> 
> It appears that the state of Auto Select While On Call is the main factor on 
> an iPhone for this side button thing.
> 
> 1. With Auto Select While On Call enabled.
> 
> • the iPhone automatically flips to speaker phone mode when the iPhone is 
> pulled away from your ear.
> • When you bring the iPhone back to your ear, the speaker phone mode is 
> disabled and the iPhone returns to regular volume and mode.
> • If the screen locks while on the call, you may need to unlock the iPhone 
> for this feature to continue working as you are accustomed to.
> • pressing the side button during a call will lock/unlock the screen.
> • you can press the side button three times to toggle VO on/off without issue 
> whether in speaker phone mode or earpiece mode.
> 
> 2.  When Auto Select While On Call is disabled:
> 
> • whether the iPhone is against your ear or not, it remains in earpiece mode.
> • You must Hide the keyboard, select Audio or Speaker to enable speaker phone 
> mode.
> • pressing the side button will end the call.
> • You cannot turn VO on/off during a call, as the act of pressing the side 
> button ends the call.
> 
> There are a few idiosyncrasies with the process, especially with respect to 
> the actions in #2.  Sometimes, right near the beginning of a call, pressing 
> the side button will not end the call.  There may be a few other 
> complications related to the proximity sensor and/or the state of the scree 
> related to whether it is locked or not.  I haven't figured them all out yet, 
> nor am I sure that they are all consistent.  I can tell you though that if 
> you wish the side button to end the call, make sure that Auto Select While on 
> Call is disabled.  This setting is found in Settings, General, Accessibility, 
> VoiceOver and Audio.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 21, 2019, at 05:49, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> volume up answers and power ends the call on those android devices
> with out a home button like the galaxy line from Samsung.
> 
> On 3/21/19, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>> Yes in the android os you can or at least use to be able to set the power
>> button and home buttons to either answer or end a call,
>> 
>> But as a lot of the phones now don’t have home buttons or at least physical
>> ones this may have changed.
>> 
>> I’ve never seen this on my ios devices.
>> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2019 3:01 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: End call.
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> A bit of research tells me that the feature you're talking about is in the
>> Accessibility options of Android phones.  It's not in a similar place for
>> iOS, so I'm not sure if it's available.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 15:42, Anders Holmberg
>> <and...@pipkrokodil.se 
>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se><mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se 
>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I may have mixed features with android.
>> But i am pritty sure i was able to end a call by pressing the top button on
>> my Iphone Se.
>> I need to investigate in this.
>> /A
>> 
>> 
>> 19 mars 2019 kl. 20:43 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>>:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've not seen that setting anywhere, but that doesn't really mean anything.
>> I've accidentally hung up on people by pressing the side button sometimes
>> when I was trying to turn VO off, so, I'd rather it be disabled in my use
>> cases.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 12:53, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
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>>  Don't know but 2 finger double tap works.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com><mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>>
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 3/19/2019 11:49 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Is the feature where you can end a call with the side button or lock button
>> on the iphone gone?
>> It does not work for me so maybe its not set up correctly.
>> And i can’t for my life remember where the setting is.
>> Its not a bigg issue as i can double tap the end call button or 2 finger
>> double tapp to end a call.
>> But it would be great to be able to end a call by using the lock button as i
>> did when i had my iphone SE.
>> /A
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