I agree that the better processor is probably worth it in the long run.
On 6/9/19, 04:31, "Simon Fogarty" <[email protected] on behalf
of [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Janina,
That was my choice also.
Even the current models are 7th gen processors so I'm not losing anything
currently.
I actually just went to make th purchase using the IOS app for apple store
and can't see an option for educational pricing.
So guess I'll use the computer in stead
Thanks Janina,
Great minds think alike
As for the start up sound, I'll just pretend it is there when the machine
starts up.
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2019 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: mac book pro 2017
So, I've been playing pretending I didn't have the boot chime and simply
holding in option for a longish time while pressing the power button second.
I still want the chime, but I can see making it without it. I can reliably
get to all three of my available environments.
I'd go for the greater processing power of the I7. In the grand scheme of
things, that's a steal for only $50, because you get to live with the benefits
for a long time.
Janina
Simon Fogarty writes:
> Na,
>
> I've made up my mind as to which one to get.
>
> And then cancelled at the last moment the choice I made.
> I've got a choice of 2 machines,
> The only difference is one has the I7 2.5GHz processor an the other
> has the I5 2.3GHz processor, other than that, they are the pro 13.3"
> with 16GB ram, 512GB ssd, Although one is release date 2017, The
> other is new as of purchase time.
> There is only $50 for the upgrade to the I7.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2019 2:37 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: mac book pro 2017
>
> Simon, it sounds to me like you're weighing the trade-offs with a clear
head. Good luck! I expect a few of us will be interested to hear what you
decide and how it works out.
>
> Best,
>
> Janina
>
> Simon Fogarty writes:
> > Hi Janina,
> >
> > The 2017 I7 2.5GHz 16GB ram & 512GB ssd pro has 2 USB-C ports for
> > charging and connectivity to go with a crazy new Zealand price of
> > $3179.00 That's a refurbished price, Brand new RRP is approx. 600 more.
> >
> > But it would be my first choice
> >
> > I'm thinking over the weekend on what device to purchase.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
> > <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, 8 June 2019 1:54 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: mac book pro 2017
> >
> > Simon:
> >
> > That 2017 Pro with an I7 and 16 Gb RAM sounds a lot better. It should
have a pretty compelling price, because I should think that's pretty baseline
specs for 64bit Windows 10 under Bootcamp--especially if you also want to run
the Windows in some kind of vm.
> >
> > For me it would also need USB 3 ports, at least one, as I've got Linux
booting off a tiny 256 Gb USB 3 stick that sticks out less far than the
charging connector on my Air.
> >
> > Depending on the price and the weight, I will consider that one myself,
because I'm looking to upgrade and get a few more years out of chiming boots.
> >
> > I do think asking for "a long time" may be asking a bit much from this
specification, though.It really does strike me as baseline today.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Janina
> >
> > Simon Fogarty writes:
> > > Hi Tim,
> > >
> > > I’ve gotta couple of options,
> > >
> > > The air would be a custom build to fully spec’ed out and yes still
has USB-A and thunderbolt 2.
> > >
> > > But only 8GB ram,
> > >
> > > I’m also looking at a 2017 I7 2.5GHz pro with 16gb ram and 512 GB
> > > ssd, I’m not going to touch bar as that causes trouble with windows
in bootcamp.
> > >
> > > Which ever I end up doing it’s a long term thing so it will have to
be considered carefully.
> > >
> > >
> > > From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Friday, 7 June 2019 2:35 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: mac book pro 2017
> > >
> > > Hi Simon,
> > >
> > > Janina may be right :). No, it doesn't have a boot chime. I have a
similar model, but the 3.1 I5 processor and 16 GB of RAM. It's the one with
the Touch Bar and 4 USB C ports. I haven't had any problems with my model
although, like you, many don't like the feel of the butterfly keys, and some
are stuck on USB A ports, of which the MBP's have none. Battery life is good,
but not excellent. It's nice and light and handles processing big jobs well.
If the price is right, I'd go for it.
> > >
> > > Later...
> > >
> > > Tim Kilburn
> > > Apple Teacher
> > > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> > >
> > > [cid:[email protected]]
> > >
> > > Jamf Certified Associate
> > > Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> > >
> > > On Jun 6, 2019, at 05:38, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey, Simon. My wish for you is that someone returned these
> > > machines because they'd heard there shouldn't be a boot chime any
longer!
> > > <grin>
> > >
> > > Janina
> > >
> > > PS: I looked at the 2017 Air machines still available today. I'm
> > > disappointed. It looks to me like the only advantage of leaving my
> > > 2014 Air for a 2017 model is a measly 4Gb more RAM. That's ain't
> > > enough today, imo.
> > >
> > > I'm back to looking at the small Thinkpad X1 Carbon machines for
> > > laptops. I realize that would leave me out of the Apple eco system.
> > > I am finding the new minis very attractive, so perhaps I'm
> > > thinking transitionally.
> > >
> > > You all have gotten under my skin enough so that I don't really
> > > want to leave Apple out of my life. Heck, Safari has become my
> > > favorite gui browser in recent months. Go figure.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Janina
> > >
> > > Simon Fogarty writes:
> > >
> > > Hi List,
> > >
> > > Just wondering if anyone on the list has a 2017 13.3" Mac book pro
with 2.3GHz I5 prodessor?
> > >
> > > I'm just looking at one of these model machines from the apple
refurbished devices and wondered why such a nice sounding machine would have
been returned to apple?
> > > I just wondered if this might be a problematic model as there are 3
of them showing in the NZ apple website refurbished list.
> > >
> > > Cheers for any information.
> > >
> > >
> > > Simon f
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