Hi James, Carlene, and Others,
You need to set a hot spot if you want to go back to the same location
in Preview after shifting to another app. Before you navigate away
from Preview, press VO-Shift-1 (or any other number key that you want
to assign to th hot spot). You'll hear VoiceOver say, "Save as
hotspot 1". Then, you can switch applications with Command-tab, do
something else, and when you return to Preview press VO-1 to get back
to your hot spot location so you can resume reading where you left
off. This is a workaround, and the hot spot won't be saved if you
have to restart VoiceOver or if you log out. Like James, I haven't
had VO go back to the beginning of the paragraph if I stop or start
speech with Control and I haven't left the application. Did you
interact with the text area when you started reading?
Skim uses the same basic underpinnings as Preview, so it generally
shares the same problems, but seems to have better focus behavior
within the app. What's tricky is that some of the detailed VO
behavior for any particular app is operating system version dependent,
and some things change when a new version is released. Flakey focus
behavior can lead to all sorts of workarounds for specific tasks --
there are plenty of instances in the archives of ways to do things
that seem slightly tortuous, and only had to be used for a specific
period of time -- and just from reading the posts, 10.6.2 seems buggy
in many small ways.
The hotspot trick should work for resuming in Preview, though.
HTH
Cheers,
Esther
James & Nash wrote:
Hi carlene,
On 12 Feb 2010, at 01:13, carlene knight wrote:
I've got a question about preview, now that you mention it. when I
was trying to read the Vo getting started PDF, I would stop speech
with control and then when I wanted to continue, it would go back
to the beginning of the paragraph I was on. It was very
frustrating. How do you get around that?
What version of Mac OS X are you running? As Esther mentioned in her
post, some aspects depend on what operating system you are using.
I've never had that before, but are you going to a different
application when you stop speech. This would make VO read from a
different position - usually the beginning. VO does not seem to have
the ability to retain its place in a PDF yet if you move to a
different application.
HTH
TC
James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
I've got a question about preview, now that you mention it. when I
was trying to read the Vo getting started PDF, I would stop speech
with control and then when I wanted to continue, it would go back
to the beginning of the paragraph I was on. It was very
frustrating. How do you get around that?
On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:51 PM, James & Nash wrote:
Hi Carolyn
On 11 Feb 2010, at 19:43, Carolyn wrote:
I'm looking at a "user guide" in a pdf file, on the MacBook Pro.
I can't seem to get beyond the first page, or copyright info. I
assume this is because I'm using previewer. Would I get further
using the Skim program you mentioned here?
Try pressing page down. That should move you to the next page.
TC
James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
James:
I'm looking at a "user guide" in a pdf file, on the MacBook Pro.
I can't seem to get beyond the first page, or copyright info. I
assume this is because I'm using previewer. Would I get further
using the Skim program you mentioned here?
TIA
Carolyn CH:)
----- Original Message -----
From: James & Nash
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible PDF viewer, was weird pdf document.
Hi,
Other than Preview is there a PDF viewer / reader application
that is accessible with VoiceOver?
Yes there is, it is called Skim and you can get it from
SourceForge or:
http://www.opensourcemac.org
TC
James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
On 11 Feb 2010, at 12:27, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
Good morning,
Other than Preview is there a PDF viewer / reader application
that is accessible with VoiceOver?
Thanks,
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On 2010-02-11, at 7:23 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
The PDF author did not use the appropriate table tags in your
problem document. You may be able to do a "select all" and copy
and paste the table into a word processor or spreadsheet which
may be able to sort out the broken table for you. Otherwise,
you are SOL - Viva Adobe!
On Feb 10, 2010, at 10:43 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hi Guys,
I've got a list of contacts here in PDF format. It's a sort'a
table with name, address, phone number and so on. So, no
matter how I view this table in prevuew, it always gives me
all the names first. After that it gives me all the
addresses. Then it gives me all the phone numbers. I've
tried going up and down, left and right, with and without
quick nav, and the order is always the same no matter what.
I'm sure it doesn't look this way on the screen. It's got to
be information across the columns and contacts up and down the
rows like a deacent table, but I can't get it to read that way
using preview with voiceover.
Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
Thanks,
erik burggraaf
A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
Phone: 888-255-5194
Email: [email protected]
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