Hi Mark,

Wow, the list view is really different.  It takes so long to scroll through the 
apps!  I could probably get used to it, but I've always used the grid view.  
However, that difference may explain why you prefer arranging apps on your 
phone and I don't.  In grid view, trying to arrange the apps on the phone is 
very confusing, at least in my opinion.

However, what I am trying to accomplish would presumably be the same in either 
view.  I want the apps I use the most to be closest when I enter the apps page. 
 Using grid view, I've been able to accomplish that, but they just never stay 
put.  It's the strangest thing.

thanks for messing around with this, Mark, I appreciate it.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Aug 4, 2019, at 8:12 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> So, have you experimented with the list view on your Series 4?  
> 
> I truly do prefer it to the grid view.
> 
> To switch to List view:
> 
> 1.
> Press the Digital Crown, once.  The apps page will be displayed.
> 
> 2.
> Single-finger, double-tap, and hold on the display until an audio signal and 
> hap tic feedback have occurred.  
> 
> 3.
> Remove your finger from the display.  Now, either explore-by-touch or use the 
> Digital Crown to place focus on either the Grid View icon or the List View 
> icon.  
> 
> 4.
> Finally, single-finger, double-tap the display to activate your selection.
> 
> Donna, let me know what you think, okay?
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2019 9:12 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Apple watch doesn't retain app layout
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> To answer your second question first, when I try and modify app layout from 
> the watch app on my phone, I can't really tell where the apps are going to 
> end up.  If I do it from the watch, I know exactly where they are.  I'm not 
> sure when they get moved back,  but I'm guessing it's when I plug the watch 
> in.  to reproduce:
> 1.  Bring up the watch face.
> 2.   Press the round button on the front of the watch to bring up apps.
> 3. Swipe right to hear VO say Arrange apps and double-tap.  VO says editing..
> 4.  Your choices will be move left or move right.  double-tap the choice you 
> want until the app is where you want it to be.
> 5.  Press Round button again to return to watch face.
> 
> Now see how long that app stays where you put it.  
> 
> You may be on to something with the difference between moving on the phone 
> and on the watch.  I moved some apps in the Watch app on my phone last night 
> after I saw your message, and this morning they were still where I had moved 
> them.
> 
> thanks for your help with this.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2019, at 4:52 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> I have read your comments several times and I’m not certain I truly 
>> understand your dilemma.
>> 
>> I will try to reproduce your findings if you can list the exact list of 
>> steps to follow.
>> 
>> Also, why would you elect to modify the app layout on the watch, itself, 
>> instead of on the phone?
>> 
>> Just curious.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2019, at 9:00 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> About three times now, I have arranged the apps on my series 4 watch the 
>>> way I want them, and every time I do, they go back to the way they were.  I 
>>> am moving them on the watch, not in the app on my phone.  Has anyone else 
>>> experienced this, and does anyone know of a way to make apps stay where you 
>>> put them?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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