Oh well, art was just a thought. Hopefully apple will find a fix soon. > On 22/10/2019, at 07:32, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Petrus, > > I don't believe that the Auto Select in Call is the factor. I also have that > disabled and have had the problem a few times. Following up to the side > button suggestion, pressing the side button once to hang up the call should > work for people. Trying to turn off VO with the triple-press of the side > button will likely just hang up the call anyway,, so it won't hurt anything. > I've found that trying to turn off VO while in a call is not worth the > effort, it just hangs up anyway due to the side button being pressed. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Jamf Certified Associate > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Oct 21, 2019, at 12:27, Petrus Tuerlings <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi Anders, > Yes, that is like me. I’ve never had this bug. I have an 8+ so I don’t think > the model of phone is a factor. I’m wondering if there is a setting that some > people have that is making it happen compared to other people. I was chatting > to someone on another list that had this bug and I know she had the auto > select speaker in call turned on and I don’t have it turned on, so not sure > if this would make a difference. Then every time I say I haven’t had it, I’m > expecting it to happen on my next call. But Murfy has left me alone so far. > >> On 22/10/2019, at 05:32, João de Sousa e Silva <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I never had it in my IiPhone 7 and some 3 or 4 in my iPhone 8 that I use >> much less. >> >> Às 15:52 de 21/10/2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries escreveu: >>> Hi Anders, >>> >>> Yes, I'm not really sure either. I've only had it happen two or three >>> times out of probably hundreds of calls since my update to iOS 13, whereas >>> others have had it happen almost every time. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Jamf Certified Associate >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2019, at 08:50, Anders Holmberg <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> I wonder why this causes issues on some phones but not on others. >>> I never have this issue on my XR. >>> /A >>> >>>> 20 okt. 2019 kl. 22:29 skrev Petrus Tuerlings <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>> >>>> That work around would be okay, however if we turn off voice over before >>>> we disconnect then the two finger double tap or magic tap won’t work to >>>> disconnect the call. We would have to depend on the other person >>>> disconnecting the call. And does one lose voiceover if one just waits for >>>> the person at the other end of the call to disconnect? I’ve been lucky so >>>> far and haven’t had any major bugs with IOS 13, touch wood. >>>> >>>>> On 21/10/2019, at 06:12, Loy Green <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> . I called disability hot line at apple and he told me they were working >>>>> on a fix. He suggested as a work around that when ever we wer on the >>>>> phone, to turn off VO before disconnecting, then back on after >>>>> disconnecting. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Halton" <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> To: <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 10:40 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone XS with 13.1.3 went silent again >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You know, it just occurred to me Lloyd when you mentioned the triple >>>>> click press to get speech back, that I’ve been dealing with speech loss >>>>> since iOS 12, and my solution has always been to use the triple click >>>>> press, only I had to do it two or possibly three times in a row to get >>>>> speech back it seems to me that people have tried it but I’ve only been >>>>> doing it the one time. I don’t know, just a crazy idea, but try doing it >>>>> twice even three times, in fact I’ve had to do it four times in the past >>>>> it’s like you have to it’s like turning speech off and then back on again >>>>> and then back on again once again for good measure. If that makes any >>>>> sense. I will say that when I did lose speech, I still had the voice over >>>>> Sounds just no voice output. I don’t know if that’s the same condition >>>>> that we’re having here with this new version or not. Anyway, give it a >>>>> try triple click three times or even four if necessary then give up on >>>>> that one >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Loy Green <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> After hanging up with someone on be my eyes my phone went silent. Had >>>>>> to get sighted help to power off and restart, then sound came back. 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