Krister, you haven't missed anything.

Its hard for me to say things like this without sounding as if I'm speaking 
badly of the people that are trying to make these tutorials, which I'm not. 
Still, I don't think that any of the people on the lists that are on about how 
great Garage Band is have ever worked professionally in a modern digital 
recording environment, so have profoundly modest desires and/or don't have any 
idea what they're missing. My DAW at the moment is Sonar, and Garage Band's 
accessibility doesn't even provide the most basic of Sonar's features. I can't 
select a piece of audio or MIDI to cut/copy/paste/delete, edit recorded MIDI 
events, nudge events/clips to change their start times, change the durations or 
other properties of clips, or perform basic processing tasks like offline 
quantize/transpose/interpolate/fit-to-time/etc. Never mind anything advanced 
like composite clip editing, manual time and pitch editing of audio, mix 
automation, etc. For sighted users, Garage Band is a simple DAW, and you must 
purchase Logic in order to get any of the real features. To me, though, Garage 
Band isn't even a good digital recorder.

I'm sure it could be better. The accessibility is certainly better than it used 
to be. But, its like Logic. If 90% of the program is accessible, but the 10% 
that isn't is the part that you can't do without when recording, then the 
program is mostly pointless. You can use Garage Band as a high quality 
synthesizer for your keyboard controller to play instruments. I suppose that 
you could use it to do jingles or short spots like Keith does, but you can do 
that with any DAW. I have production libraries from the Hollywood Edge, Sound 
Ideas, and many others, templates for these sorts of projects in Sonar, and 
promise that I can throw productions like that together in a fraction of the 
time that someone would in GB. Plus, if I want to change a part of it, I can 
actually edit what I have, instead of having to start over from scratch.

I really hope that GB gets better. I'd like to do more of my audio work on the 
Mac. For blind people involved in audio work, the Mac is just a toy right now. 
That will change when the new Pro Tools comes out. Hopefully, Apple will 
improve accessibility to their tools before too long, also.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: an applescript for the garage band move loop to track grid 
problematic

Hi there,
I still don't get it. Even if you can put a loop on the grid, you can't use it 
effectively because you can only put it in one place. If you want to have the 
loop span multiple bars in the grid, you can't because once in the track grid, 
it can't be seen by VO so it can't be manipulated. It's great that you can move 
loops to the grid using an applescript, but i can see no point in it since it 
can't be edited anyway unless i've missed anything obvious. I have looked in 
the manual and/or help file on editing loops, but i don't get how things are 
supposed to work, so maybe i don't understand something here.
/Krister

26 feb 2010 kl. 11.58 skrev Yuma Antoine Decaux:

> I have no problem with pessimism, believe me :)
> 
> I was talking about putting a loop from the loop library into the track grid.
> 
> Or maybe i've been following the wrong tutorial on the you can make it .com 
> about putting loops/instruments/etc on the track grid.
> 
> This is a way to do in 1 manipulation what should be done in 8 in 
> normal circumstances
> 
> Cheers
> 
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