Hi simon i suggested a vibration sound for startup! but that’s probably gone! 
into siber space like all other suggestions! 

> On 19 Feb 2020, at 7:04 pm, Simon A Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> You will need to contact apple and tell them of your thoughts.
> 
> Others have tried and apple just don't seem to care,
> 
> I think a hammer is called for.
> 
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> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
> Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2020 12:50 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Mac start sound
> 
> I understand your  saying it does not, but my question is why not?
> I mean I can set a flip phone to vibrate, or play the  company's  ad music or 
> something when the phone turns on.
> Seems a bit squirlly not to allow for well something.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
> 
>> Nope, the iPhone does not make any sound when you start it up, all you get 
>> is the apple logo coming up on the screen when it is starting. At least the 
>> iPhone and the MacBooks make a tone when one is charging them up.
>> 
>>> On 19/02/2020, at 12:00, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wait, why not?
>>> granted I am  far from using an iPhone, but every cell phone I have ever 
>>> owned  allowed an option to set a start up indicator, something the phone 
>>> would do each time it was powered on...and this was not an accessibility 
>>> feature   either.
>>> Why would the iPhone not allow for this,  since one can  actually turn them 
>>> off?...or some of them?
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, well it would be nice to have a start up sound on the iPhone as well, 
>>>> but don’t think that will ever happen.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19/02/2020, at 10:58, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> Yes i totally agree with you.
>>>>> BUt i don’t know why they removed the sound at all?
>>>>> I do understand those who want a startup sound.
>>>>> Its like the discussion of having a pc to beep at startup or not.
>>>>> /A
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 16 feb. 2020 kl. 23:06 skrev Karen Lewellen <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I can respect your experience.  I, speaking personally, will not by a 
>>>>>> mac that does not have  the start up sound.  Is not it amazing how 
>>>>>> individual preferences makes computing really special?
>>>>>> Frankly, that sound is so much a part of pop culture, I am wondering how 
>>>>>> the decision was made.  what problem is solved by removing the sound for 
>>>>>> everyone, that  was not solved by allowing individuals to remove it if 
>>>>>> desired?
>>>>>> Kare
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Feb 2020, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>> Infact to me its no problem to hear when the compter starts even 
>>>>>>> without a chime.
>>>>>>> But i guess i am the only that has disabled the sound as i really don’t 
>>>>>>> need it.
>>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 14 feb. 2020 kl. 18:12 skrev J. Cyr <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tim, would additional noise to the powers that be help?  If so I'd be 
>>>>>>>> delighted to add my voice to the pleas for some sound at start up!  To 
>>>>>>>> whom should such things be addressed to be most effective?
>>>>>>>> Joy
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2020, at 11:38 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On newer Macs, I doubt that any of these will work.  I'm pretty sure 
>>>>>>>> that the chime generator is not even a part of the machine anymore.  
>>>>>>>> These commands were for older Macs for removing the chime and 
>>>>>>>> regaining it as well as for the Macs in the transition time between 
>>>>>>>> when there was and as they were removing the startup chime.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We're just SOL as far as I'm aware.  I've made noise to the powers 
>>>>>>>> that be, but the noise fell on deaf ears.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2020, at 09:27, Tibor Niesner <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> try enter this command:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> sudo nvram BootAudio=%01
>>>>>>>> Sound will be activated. For deactivate enter this command:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> sudo nvram BootAudio=%00
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> T.N
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 14. 2. 2020 v 16:56, Jürgen Fleger <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> several times I read on the internet of a way to get back the Mac 
>>>>>>>>> start sound on the newer Macs. The discription says to enter the 
>>>>>>>>> folloing command in Terminal and restart the Mac:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So far it didn’t work for me. Are you aware of a different way or am 
>>>>>>>>> I doing something wrong?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks and all the best
>>>>>>>>> Jürgen
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