I have barely used the Catalina terminal, and I have not heard anything about 
it being more accessible. I have always been able to navigate via word and 
character with the Mac terminal program and it certainly was less frustrating 
than using an SSH client I was forced to use on Windows 10 years ago with JAWS. 
The trick was one clear out the buffer occasionally with command-k and make 
sure you interact with the text. So before I did anything that might produce a 
lot of output I always clear out the scroll back buffer or redirect the output 
using the tee program.
Jonathan
 
                Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:49 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> If you find the terminal sufficiently accessible with VoiceOver, then 
> obviously you don’t need to do anything further. In my experience, the 
> terminal is usable in Catalina with VoiceOver. However, I wouldn’t wish to 
> use it for running text editors or other interactive applications a lot, as 
> it’s rather awkward. To do that, I would much rather run Linux and use the 
> console directly (and, fortunately, my other laptop has Linux installed in a 
> dual-boot configuration).
>  
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> From: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Nebojsa Tasic 
> <nele.ta...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 11:01
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Accessible Terminal
>  
>  
> I installed Homebrew in order to prepare environment for TDSR. During 
> instalation I noticed that I can read in Terminal line by line and word by 
> word. Does that mean that Terminal became accessible in Catalina? Maybe I 
> will not need to install TDSR.
>  
> On 18.2.2020. 22:55, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Sorry, I’ll add links:
>>  
>> TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr <https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr>
>>  
>> Emacs: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ 
>> <https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/>
>>  
>> Emacspeak: https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak 
>> <https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak>
>>  
>> A guide (contributions welcome), on installing Emacs and Emacspeak on the 
>> Mac and working with it: 
>> https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043 
>> <https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net 
>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> devin,
>>> Do you mind adding a link to the tdsr program for the sake of our list 
>>> archive?
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along with a shell that 
>>>> I think is somewhat usable, its main advantage being, to me, that unlike 
>>>> most terminals, Emas’ Shell allows one to read not just a page of output, 
>>>> but entire history. Something like TDSR with Screen, the shell command, 
>>>> may allow this as well, but gosh being able to search the history is 
>>>> great. TDSR, though, is the best terminal screen reader on Mac for more 
>>>> interactive commands, or things like SSH, Tintin, and other such 
>>>> connectors to remote services.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic <nele.ta...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:nele.ta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Devin!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace Voice Over?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr 
>>>>>> <https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
>>>>>> https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043 
>>>>>> <https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic <nele.ta...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:nele.ta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Could you recommend me a program or add-on for more accessible work in 
>>>>>>> Terminal?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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