Okay, that’s surprising. How do you find it useful? How do you even customize 
it? Those areas of the Touch Bar settings seem quite inaccessible. Like, I 
can’t drag and drop actions between the top and bottom part of that screen.

> On May 18, 2020, at 12:39 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>   Actually, the Touch Bar is a very powerful and useful tool, and many people 
> use it effectively on the Mac Book Pro. From a blind perspective, you have to 
> get used to it and take your time learning it. You can even customize the 
> Touch Bar for specific apps to do quick actions for that app. I have slowly 
> come along and have taken my time learning to use it. I finally am at the 
> point in which I am customizing its options and making effective use of it.
> 
> 
> Take Care
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>> On May 18, 2020, at 1:34 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
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>> 
>> Answers inline because there’s a lot of questions, sorry.
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I have a variety of Mac questions.
>>> 
>>> MacBook Pro 
>>> As voiceover users, what are your thoughts on the MacPro touch bar? Is that 
>>> a selling point over the MacBook Air?
>> Its not. The Touch Bar, for me, sucks, makes things slower, and should be on 
>> Air MacBooks for consumers who like shiny new stuff, instead of pros for 
>> people who try their best to get work done. Yes, I really don’t like it.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Mac mini 
>>> Does anyone have experience choosing and connecting a monitor to the Mac 
>>> mini? Picking out a good one for sighted household members? ;) I was under 
>>> some assumption that a TV would work fine, but from my reading, that 
>>> doesn't sound the case. It didn't occur to me, that monitors are built for 
>>> sitting close, TV's are built for sitting away. Insert face-palm here.
>> I just used a TV for my old Mac mini. It was a small TV, like a 21 inch or 
>> so. 
>>> 
>>> Mac bluetooth accessories
>>> I've recently learned about bluetooth numb pads. I remember way back in the 
>>> day, I loved using an external numb pad with my Window's machine. Anyone 
>>> with experience using one of these with Mac? I know the numb pad will 
>>> extend voiceover commands, but I don't know if a bluetooth one will do this.
>> It should.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the help. I am ready to upgrade my MacBook Air mid 2011, but 
>>> clearly having a hard time deciding.
>>> 
>>> Traci 
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