Using Fn + Tab works like a charm. No double tapping necessary. - Brad -
On Jun 27, 2020, at 15:19, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: Hi Dave, Yeah, I know. The problem is that I have to tap it several times to get it to work, it’s very cludgy. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 27, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Donna, > The far left location on the touchbar defaults to Escape. Double tap there. > > Dave Carlson > Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker > > On Jun 27, 2020, at 12:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > That's interesting. I could probably live with the touch bar if I had an > escape key. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Jun 27, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: >> >> In addition to going back to keyboards with a scissor-switch mechanism, both >> MacBook Pro and MacBook Air keyboards now use and inverted-T style layout >> for arrow keys and have a physical Escape key. >> >> - Brad - >> >> On Jun 27, 2020, at 12:05, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> I don’t think they’re using the butterfly keyboards at all anymore. That’s >> one reason I was thinking about upgrading. I really don’t like that keyboard. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 12:02 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> <Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> As long as its not the butterfly one which I have not heard good things >>> about. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> in the past. What if it were true? >>> >>>>> On 6/27/2020 9:57 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: >>>> Keyboard is the same. Only difference is the Touch Bar. >>>> - Brad - >>>>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 11:39, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> Based on much of the comments to this thread, the MBP will stay on my >>>> list. I run VMware Fusion plus I have a media library. >>>> If I don't like the keyboard I can use my external one. >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>>>> On 6/26/2020 11:42 PM, Brad Snyder wrote: >>>>> don’t be fooled by the specs. The processor in the MacBook Pro smokes >>>>> the processor in the Air. >>>>> If all you want to do is email and browse the web, then go for the Air. >>>>> If you want to do real work, there is no substitute for the MacBook Pro. >>>>> Just don’t waste your money on the bottom level MacBook Pro with 2 USB-C >>>>> ports and the 8th generation processor. If you are thinking about that >>>>> one, you should go ahead and get the Air. It is a much better option for >>>>> your money. >>>>> - Brad - >>>>>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 23:55, maurice mines <maur...@maurice-amines.com >>>>>> <mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote: >>>>> Hello, I’m using a MacBook Pro 2020 I been using it for not quite a week >>>>> now yes the Touch Bar takes it some getting used to. But but the main >>>>> reason why it is a MacBook Pro is because of my additional disability I >>>>> have a written expression disorder that if I typed this email you >>>>> probably would not be able to read it. Think of it as dyslexia of >>>>> writing. So I use dictation software. Like I said the Touch Bar is a bit >>>>> weird but I’m slowly learning to live with it. Very best wall. >>>>> Sincerely Maurice Mines. >>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 20:37, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >>>>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi ET, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not a fan of the touch bar myself but Petrus Sterling is using a mac >>>>>> book pro with the touch bar and I believe he's very happy with it, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:06 AM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been looking at this too. I'm not concerned about the Touch Bar >>>>>> though as I will likely get used to it. The 13" model with 4 USB ports >>>>>> starts at $1799. >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>>> in the past. 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