oH and to add to this problem. I  tried to uncheck all boxrd under window and 
it would not work. all of them became checked and my settings won't stick.
On Mar 14, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> 
> First, which browser are you using to read this thread at the linked Mail 
> Archive site?  There are different access key combinations for FireFox, 
> Internet Explorer and Safari.  For IE I think you use Alt-N to read down the 
> thread.  For Safari on a Mac with VoiceOver turned on, Control-N 
> automatically takes you to the next post in a thread, and Command-N opens a 
> new Window (unless there have been horrid changes that I don't know about).  
> For Safari on a Mac without VoiceOver turned on, Control-Option-N will take 
> you to the next post in a thread at the Mail Archive site. Control-P (or 
> Alt-P, etc. depending on the browser) takes you to the previous post in the 
> thread. I totally agree that having to click on the right arrow would be a 
> pain, and the reason I use the Mail Archive is because the access keys and 
> the search function makes it simple for me to find and read through content.  
> It also supports access keys for other browsers and platforms.
> 
> In answer to your other questions, you can save the plist files anywhere you 
> want on your home directory and then just copy them over to the your 
> Library/Preferences folder if something goes wrong.  There are usually only a 
> few that would be a pain to set up again.  If I don't have a recent copy I'll 
> simply go into a cloned backup of my drive (which I take periodically) and 
> copy them from the  Library/Preferences folder of my directory.
> 
> Here's the direct link to the post that I made to Daniel's thread describing 
> how to navigate to the Library Preferences folder and decide which files to 
> copy and save:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg16511.html
> 
> I'm not sure about the other messages, but it sounds as though your verbosity 
> settings should be changed.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
> 
> Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Ok reading this thread is almost impossible I have to keep clicking on the 
>> right arrow to keep reading. is there an easier way to read this?
>> 
>> Thanks and how do I get it to stop saying where I am and what I'm entering 
>> and leaving. lol.
>> On Mar 14, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sarah,
>>> 
>>> This sounds like the same problem that Daniel reported last month, and that 
>>> Carlene may have seen a bit earlier.  Do you have a copy of you old 
>>> VoiceOver preference files?  We're not sure why this is happening in these 
>>> instances, but either as a source or result of the problem you .plist files 
>>> are getting overwritten or the system thinks they are corrupted and is 
>>> generating new ones.  (Corrupted preference files are the second most 
>>> common general problem, but way down in frequency after having to repair 
>>> permissions with Disk Utility).  I generally save copies of the most 
>>> frequently used plist files somewhere easily accessed on my home directory. 
>>>  The ones you are likely to want for VoiceOver are:
>>> 
>>> com.apple.universalaccess.plist
>>> com.apple.VoiceOver.plist
>>> com.apple.VoiceOver.pronunciations.plist
>>> Here's the start of Daniel's thread on VoiceOver resetting itself:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg16492.html
>>> Use Control-N to read down through the thread.  You can also check my post 
>>> to Carlene about how to navigate to the Preferences folder.  That post 
>>> lists even more VoiceOver and speech-related plist files:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg13973.html
>>> If you have any of the old plist files around from a backup, just copy them 
>>> into the Library/Preferences folder under your home directory and they 
>>> should be used instead.
>>> HTH
>>> Cheers,
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>>> sorry to the cross posting.
>>>> 
>>>> Hello to all. Voice over reset itself yesterday and i can't figure out 
>>>> how. I am still trying get it not to say now in window or leaving tool bar 
>>>> or table or what ever and application when I focus something. I'v checked 
>>>> the settings in the vo control panel but I can't find anything that would 
>>>> change this.
>>>> 
>>>> any help would be good as I'm getting frustrated, fast.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> msn: [email protected]
>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/marrie1
>>>> podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/feeds
>>>> 
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