Not quite out yet, and there are currently some serious VoiceOver issues in the 
beta.

                Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Sep 30, 2020, at 03:57, Lorie McCloud <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Is the next one above Catalina out yet? I'm probably going to upgrade to it 
> but I want to find out how certain things are working in it like Apple Mail 
> before I do it.
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2020, at 9:09 PM, Jonathan Cohn <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> You could also set up a keyboard commander for turning on quicknav. I don’t 
>> have time right now to give detailed instructions, but if you  interested 
>> reply back with a key. Note in Catalina and higher, vo-Q toggles quicknav 
>> qwerty controls. In my default configuration, option Q does not mapped to 
>> anything, so that is probably a good keystroke to assign to toggle QuickNav.
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Brad Snyder <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Lorie,
>>> 
>>> You have 2 options that I can think of:
>>> 
>>> Option 1:
>>> While holding down VO + CMD, press the Left-arrow key, which will change 
>>> rotor options until you get to either characters or words.  Then while 
>>> continuing to hold down the VO + CMD keys, use the up or down arrows to 
>>> navigate by the selected option.
>>> 
>>> Option 2:
>>> Assuming you are using a MacBook Pro or Air, turn on the trackPad commander 
>>> using VO plus a clockwise 2-finger rotor action on the trackpad.  Then use 
>>> the rotor to select either characters or words, then use a one finger flick 
>>> either up or down to navigate by the selected option.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 16:43, Lorie McCloud <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> instead of quicknav, which I can't turn on right now because of a dead 
>>> right arrow key, I've been using certain keyboard commands such as 
>>> vo-commandl for links and vo-command-h for headings etc. my problem is that 
>>> vo-command-w doesn't give me words and vo-command-c doesn't give me 
>>> characters. are there keyboard commands for these?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lorie
>>> 
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