I heard a rumor that the Chameleon may be rebranded as the Brailliant 20 for those outside the U.S. who would work with a Humanware dealer. I have no idea if it's true or not. WHEN the new Brailliant 40 launches, HW claims in December, it is expected to have all of the features of the Mantis, but will also have speakers and a Perkins-style keyboard. NO idea if that will also include speech or not.
HTH, Scott On 10/7/20, joseph hodge <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes the 20 cell version is called the Chamaeleon I work for the American > printing House. It is a Perkins style input. The human wear will be selling > it overseas I believe at some point but currently I believe it's only sold > in America. There were talks of this happening at some point, but I'm not as > involved as I once was with the project so sorry I knowing the details I > would contact Humanware to maybe speed up the process if you're > interested. > >> On Oct 7, 2020, at 7:47 PM, Tali Sarnetzky <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, in most cases, they don't include pricing for these >> devices when you find a description. >> Take into consider, Anders, that the price might be different in >> Sweden, or if you bring it into the country by yourself. I know this >> from my own experience in Israel. >> >> On 10/7/20, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi! >>> That does not matter for me. >>> But it can be for some. >>> /A >>> >>>> 7 okt. 2020 kl. 21:31 skrev Mary Otten <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> The 20 cell version has braille input rather than typing. A dealbreaker >>>> for me. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Oct 7, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> THey should have a 20 cell version. >>>>> /A >>>>> >>>>>> 7 okt. 2020 kl. 20:32 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>> It's really nice having a qwerty keyboard with a braille display. If >>>>>> that's of interest, and you don't care about limitations in the >>>>>> Editor, >>>>>> it'd be worth checking into. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>> It might be something for me then. >>>>>>> Depends on the cost of the device. >>>>>>> We don’t have it here in Sweden but it might be possible to buy from >>>>>>> Humanware and then get it delivered to Sweden. >>>>>>> Thanks anyway for reporting your issue. >>>>>>> /A >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 7 okt. 2020 kl. 15:46 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since we’ve had some discussions about braille displays, I thought >>>>>>>> I’d >>>>>>>> share the outcome of my time with the Mantis. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’ve had my Mantis for a couple of days now, and unfortunately, it >>>>>>>> looks like I’ll be returning it. I wanted to share why with the >>>>>>>> list, >>>>>>>> because I thought that the issue I have may also be an issue for >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> of you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> First let me say that it’s a really nice device. It’s light-weight, >>>>>>>> the keyboard is very comfortable to type on, and the way the device >>>>>>>> functions is very well thought-out. It is very easy to pair with an >>>>>>>> i-device - I’m actually typing on it as I write this message. So, >>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>> my issue isn’t an issue for you, I recommend it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the Mantis has what for me is a fatal flaw. >>>>>>>> Humanware >>>>>>>> implemented a feature in the Mantis that they implement in their >>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>> notetakers, namely that there is a separate reader for BRF files, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> a separate word-processor where you can actually edit text. I’ve >>>>>>>> always thought this was dumb, but I figured I’d just ignore the >>>>>>>> reader >>>>>>>> and use the editor. But when I got my Mantis, I was saddened to >>>>>>>> learn >>>>>>>> that there’s a limit to the file size in the Editor, so it is not >>>>>>>> possible to open books there. Since I often read and edit >>>>>>>> simultaneously, this is a deal breaker for me. I have no idea >>>>>>>> whether >>>>>>>> there are plans to address this in a future update, but I >>>>>>>> personally >>>>>>>> don't want to buy a device in the hope that a feature I need will >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> implemented some day. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Again, this is a nice device, so if you don’t care about this >>>>>>>> limitation, by all means consider it. 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