Hi Donna

I've not played with Facebook on a PC since June 2009.  When I switched to the 
Mac I wanted to make a clean break from Windows so when given the option I 
declined to have a part of my Mac set up with Windows as many people do.  My 
reasoning was I wanted to completely leave the trojen horses and viruses which 
almost wiped out my decades worth of screenplays, theatre pieces, stories 
behind.  Although, now I read the listeres here and I wonder if I should have 
done as so many do.  Is it too late to put Windows on my Mac?  Although I don't 
miss the headaches of worrying about updating my virus protection, I kind of do 
miss some aspects of windows.  

Sexy Isra

Israel Antonio
www.sexyisra.blogspot.com
www.twitter.com/sexyisra



On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi Israel,
> 
> Not sure how long it's been since you have done this on the PC, but it may 
> have improved.  I use JAWS, so can't say for sure about Window Eyes, but I 
> have no problem updating my profile or chatting.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Mar 16, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Israel wrote:
> 
>> I agree with Donna.  The time I logged on to Facebook when I had my PC, I 
>> could always update status and/or post on friends' walls with ease.  At the 
>> time I used Window-Eyes screen reader and it was easy to use FB main page to 
>> update status.  Now, there were  other aspects of FB such as chat, 
>> applications, and even the share function I could never figure out.  I had a 
>> difficult time changing my profile info too.  I always had to get sighted 
>> help and they said they noticed, the screen reader would even speak labels, 
>> links, or items that weren't even on the page.  One friend said "I can see 
>> the screen while listening to the speech and I'm confused.  How do you deal 
>> with this?"
>> 
>> Outside of the updating status or writing on walls, I have found that when 
>> using my iMac and Voiceover, the main FB site seems "clearer" and not as 
>> confusing as when using Window-Eyes.  I also find I have access to many more 
>> things on FB now that I use VO and my Mac.  Even posting comments to my 
>> friends' updates was a major confusing chore on the PC but with Mac, my only 
>> early struggles came when adjusting to this new concept of when to interact 
>> and when not.  In fact, in general, when using my PC, I could NEVER access 
>> any online forms on any site successfully.  Maybe it was just my inability 
>> to grasp how to do it but with VO, I find that I am able to fill out forms 
>> and register for events, races, gatherings much easier.  
>> 
>> In situations like this, I wish I was more tech savvy or knowledgeable about 
>> computers, applications, and other aspects to provide better insight.  
>> 
>> Sexy Isra
>> 
>> Israel Antonio
>> www.sexyisra.blogspot.com
>> www.twitter.com/sexyisra
>> 
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>> 
>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> You can update status very easily at the full site when in Windows.  Also, 
>>> if our sited counterparts can use the full site, then clearly there is an 
>>> issue related to VO.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:14 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I use bboth the lyte and the m.facebook access and I can't say I've seen
>>>> the apps on it from within windows / IE or firefox either, so I don't see
>>>> how it can be something apple have to work on.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2010 1:49 a.m.
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: using facebook with safari
>>>> 
>>>> On 2010-03-15, at 8:49 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The problem with this is that the lite site, like the mobile site, won't
>>>> let you interface with the apps.  Personally, I really think this is
>>>> something Apple needs to work on.
>>>> 
>>>> * I think that if Facebook followed web standards, including WCAG 2.0, then
>>>> the site would work fine. I don't think that there's anything that Apple
>>>> needs to work on, at least not until Facebook commits to web standards.
>>>> 
>>>> Everett
>>>> 
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