Hello William,
Let me try to expand on Chris' answer about differences between the
"Enter" key and the "Return" key. On older Mac laptops, such as my
PowerBook G4, there is a separate "Enter" key located along the bottom
row of keys where the right "Option" key is located on your MacBook --
just to the left of the arrow keys and to the right of the "Command"
key that is beside the space bar, as Chris described. The "Return"
key is located at the far right of the keyboard, and is the long key
just above the "Shift" key, as you described. In Windows parlance,
this key is always referred to as "Enter". The two keys generate
difference command sequences, although some programs will allow you to
press either key for the same functionality. As an example of how
these keys can behave differently, in iTunes, if your cursor is
highlighting a track in the "Songs" table and you press "Return", the
selected track will start playing. If you press the "Enter" key under
the same conditions, you are placed in insert mode so that you can
type in a new name for the track. Again, this behavior is only
evident on a keyboard that has a separate "Enter" key; current MacBook
keyboards don't have an "Enter" key. I think that you can generate the
same key command sequence as the "Enter" key if you hold down the "Fn"
key and the same time you press the "Return", but I'm not certain of
that. I am able to check that when I turn on VoiceOver keyboard
practice mode (VO-K) that holding down the "Fn" key and pressing
"Return" produces "Enter", just as pressing the "Enter" key on my
PowerBook does, while just pressing the "Return" key without holding
down the "Fn" key produces "Return" in this mode. (Don't forget to
press the "Escape" key to exit keyboard practice mode.) Also,
pressing Fn+Return on a selected song in the iTunes songs table gives
the same behavior I find on my PowerBook with the "Enter" key, and
that's different from the "Return" key.
In some word processing programs the two keys are distinguished as
indicating a line break ("Return") or a page break ("Enter").
Historically, this is because there were different terminal
conventions for relaying data. Terminals with character mode entry
(DEC VT100, I think) used the "Return" key to indicate the end of data
entry. Page mode terminals (IBM 3270) used the "Enter" key to send
off data when all the fields in a form had been filled in. (I hope
I've gotten that right, since this is only based on reading.)
Hope this helps to clarify that there are differences between "Return"
and "Enter" keys. I can't answer whether Pages 09 is using different
command sequences for "Return" and "Enter" in general, though. Over
the last couple of years, with the flood of Windows users on the list,
I've tended to use "Enter" in some instances where I always used to
type "Return" in my descriptions. They are, actually, different keys.
Cheers,
Esther
On 18 Mar 2010, at 12:07, William Windels wrote:
Hello Chris,
Thanx for your answer but I don't understand well I think.
I use a macbook so, I haven't a full-sized keyboard, like you I think.
The enter key on that keyboard is on the right side of the
keyboard , above the right shift-key.
It's a long key that's oriented vertically.
So, if this is the enter-key, what's the return key?
Or in the other way: if this is the return key, what's the neter key?
thanx in advance,
best regards,
William
Op 18-mrt-2010, om 21:53 heeft Chris Blouch het volgende geschreven:
Enter is not the same key as return. It often times does the same
thing while editing text but for commands they are treated
differently. On a full-size keyboard Enter is the bottom right on
your numeric keypad. On My laptop it is the button to the right of
the command key to the right of the space bar, or to the left of
the left arrow key. So if Option-Enter makes a new page you need to
make sure you're using Enter and not Return. Historically Return
was mapped to the carriage return (CR) character while Enter was
mapped to a linefeed (LF) character. Macs generally used CR as it's
end of line character in text while Unix used LF and DOS/Windows
required both. Yay standards! So back in the day before editors hid
the nuances the different camps would complain about each other
when they tried to move text files across platforms. Now days OSX
is unix so we use LF for end of line, but maybe this is too much
information <smile>
CB
William Windels wrote:
Hi all,
I have a strange problem with pages:
I was reading the manual of pages with the hotkeys to look for the
command to take a new page.
I found the command: command+enter to take a new page.
Unfortunately, when I was in the textfield, this command was not
possible at that moment (I hear a sound of vo).
I was looking further in the manual with the hotkeys and I saw
somteimes return and sometimes enter.
Whats the difference between them?
After this strange experience, I was looking in the help and there
was written "pages 09".
But, when I was looking in the section about in the menu-item
pages, I saw the following:
Pages 08 version 4.0.3 (766).
This seems to be a contradiction?
So, what is the hotkey for taking a new page and , if it's
important, what's the diffference between a enter and a return?
Thanx in advance,
best regards,
William
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