that would be great if they could fix this. It does seem to work inconsistantly. Sometimes I get feedback while typing in address book and other times I get nothing.
Christina On Mar 19, 2010, at 6:57 AM, mani wrote: > Done. Thanks Scott. > And Christina, don't be surprised if you gat a brand new 'address > book' in the mail. :) > > mani > > On Mar 19, 5:24 am, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: >> [email protected] is the address where you can send any and all issues >> related to VoiceOver or any accessibility features of Apple products. >> On Mar 18, 2010, at 10:23 PM, mani wrote: >> >> >> >>> I think this is inconsistent with the general VO behavior and should >>> be reported as a bug to Apple. >>> What would be the best way to reach this to Apple? >> >>> Thanks, >>> mani >> >>> On Mar 18, 7:55 pm, Christina <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Thanks so much. I got it to work now thanks to you. If I don't use the >>>> vo keys, per your instructions, to change the date, then it works great. >>>> While in the month field I get zero feedback but while in the day or year >>>> areas I do get feedback from voiceover. That is much more workable then >>>> the way I was trying to do this before your help. Thanks. That makes >>>> life soooo much easier. >> >>>> Christina >>>> On Mar 18, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: >> >>>>> Hi Christina, >> >>>>> OK, I misunderstood your question and assumed that, when you were >>>>> speaking of birthday fields, you were speaking about iCal. I now >>>>> understand that you're referring to Address Book instead. >> >>>>> OK, this is a complicated explanation. I'll try to make it as clear as I >>>>> can. Sit back and enjoy the bumpy ride… >> >>>>> Address Book definitely has a bug in that VoiceOver often doesn't echo >>>>> typing and deletion of characters within a field. One has to type without >>>>> feedback and move away and back to double check the input. >> >>>>> When editing a birthday field, first, make sure you're actually editing >>>>> the card rather than browsing the contact's scroll area and simply >>>>> interacting with the card's information. Again, I must stress the >>>>> difference. Command'l is the shortcut for editing a card. >> >>>>> Now, assuming you've already added the birthday field, navigate to the >>>>> field and interact with it. Make a mental note of the month. If I'm not >>>>> mistaken, by default, the active field will be the month and the date >>>>> will say December 31, 2000. In this case, use only your up or down arrow >>>>> key to change the value. The up arrow will move the month forward like >>>>> from december to January and the down arrow will move it back like from >>>>> December to November, for example. Now, remember, you probably won't get >>>>> any feedback. You'll probably hear the year but don't assume that the >>>>> active keyboard focus is on the year field. >> >>>>> When you've changed the month to what you think is correct, use only the >>>>> right arrow key to go to the day field and then use only the up or down >>>>> key to set the day. Repeat this for the year as well. Alternatively, you >>>>> can try simply typing the value and not use the arrow keys. Sometimes >>>>> that seems to work well but you might find yourself typing the wrong >>>>> thing in the wrong field. >> >>>>> To check your entry, don't stop interacting or that will throw you out of >>>>> the scroll area. Instead, simply use Control-Option-left arrow to move >>>>> left and then use Control-Option-right arrow to read the date field. >> >>>>> Now, an important thing to remember is that, once you've interacted with >>>>> the date field and have changed values and subsequently used VO-left >>>>> arrow to move away and back to check the date, when you once again >>>>> interact, you'll be on the last field you edited and not necessarily the >>>>> month field like you were in when you first interacted at the outset. >>>>> Does that make sense? >> >>>>> In other words, you interacted the first time and the focus was on the >>>>> month. You used the arrow keys to set the month, the right arrow key to >>>>> move to day, the up and down arrows (or just typing) to set the day, >>>>> right arrow to move to the year and set the year with what ever method >>>>> you chose. Then you pressed VO-left arrow to move away and then VO-right >>>>> arrow to move back. Let's say you needed to adjust the day field. When >>>>> you again interact with the date field you'll be on the year because >>>>> that's where you were the last time you interacted and that's where the >>>>> keyboard focus is. So you now have to use the left arrow key to move back >>>>> to the day field. Hopefully that explains the initial concept. >> >>>>> Now, if you use other keys to navigate, like Tab, all bets are off on its >>>>> behavior. I'd assume that if you actually tabbed to an edit field, >>>>> VoiceOver's keyboard focus would leave the date field and upon tabbing >>>>> back to it, the month would be the first focused field. Anyway, that's an >>>>> assumption, I already stated. >> >>>>> So, long story, it's not really easily accessible and it sounds >>>>> complicated but, once you're used to the process, it's certainly doable. >> >>>>> Hopefully that helps. >> >>>>> Slau >>>>> as >>>>> On Mar 18, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Christina wrote: >> >>>>>> I apologize for writing again about this issue. Is I am very frustrated >>>>>> trying to enter dates into address book for birth dates and >>>>>> anniversaries. >> >>>>>> Is this not really accessible, or do I have a voiceover setting set up >>>>>> in a way that is causing so much distress? >> >>>>>> I'll try to explain the issues. I can interact with the date field. I >>>>>> seem to be able to vo left and right arrow between month/day/year. Then >>>>>> I have tried typing in the info or using vo plus up and down arrows. >>>>>> Typing does not seem to work as according to a sighted person there is a >>>>>> text cursor that is not moving with the vo cursor. I do have vo set up >>>>>> so that it should be following the vo cursor but it won't follow. I can >>>>>> move that cursor without using the vo keys and using just the right and >>>>>> left arrows. However, there is no audio feedback at all and I do not >>>>>> know where it is but if I type where that cursor is then it will type in >>>>>> that spot. So, if I use vo plus up and down arrows to change the >>>>>> month/day/year then it will move it up once and announce December no >>>>>> matter what month is actually entered then the next time I use vo plus >>>>>> up arrow vo completely jumps out of the date field. It is incredibly >>>>>> frustrating. >> >>>>>> Is address book actually not accessible and should I use something else? >>>>>> Or am i just not aware of the proper way to get this to work? I also >>>>>> forgot to mention that I often have the need to alt plus tab to another >>>>>> program then alt plus shift tab back to address book to get vo to >>>>>> interact properly for a short bit with the date field. >> >>>>>> Thanks so much for any help or advice and I apologize for the lengthy >>>>>> e-mail. >> >>>>>> Christina >> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group >>>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group >>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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