To your first point, every article I've read, whether it's from Apple or a user, says managing one's backups via Finder is a bad idea because TM can get confused if something else gains control of its index structure.

To your second point about the interface being the same, indeed it is. But try opening Time Machine from the Applications folder instead. If you don't get what I got, then I obviously have a wrong setting somewhere. VoiceOver does some wacky stuff if you do this, such as, but not limited to, not allowing you into the menus, and needing to access the Time Machine dialog via the Window Chooser first. Maybe that's Apple's way of saying "ah ah, don't go there." LOL.


On 12/30/2020 2:12 PM, John Panarese wrote:
   If I want to open my time machine disk to see the folders, I u usually look 
at it through the Finder. I open the disk and proceed from there.

     As far as I can see, the time machine interface looks the same to me. I 
just tried this by opening Time Machine from the menu extras while focused on a 
folder in Finder.


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On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Steve Matzura <[email protected]> wrote:

First off, what's up with Time Machines disappearing from the Extras menu?


Second, what's up with the fact that when TM is opened manually from the 
Applications folder, VoiceOver loses focus and you have to bring the TM window 
back yourself by finding it in the Window Chooser menu (double-VO+F2)?


The Time Machine window, once you get to it, is vastly different from the way 
it's been for several versions of MacOS before Big Sur. Gone is the ability to 
select a disk, or to open a list of backups to possibly restore something, and 
the Restore button is dimmed.


Anyone else finding what I'm finding?


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