Good grief! This message had more tails than message text! I cut 'em all
off. LOL. And I thought email clients were supposed to do that
automatically. Seems most never do. Double LOL!
Why does Apple offer only Airplay? Probably because it's their product,
their patent, their trademarked thing, and for those who haven't figured
it by now, Apple doesn't play or like playing with others. It likes to
do everything for itself on its own. That's why it's called the Apple
sandbox.
On 6/16/2021 12:46 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
Hi Tim,
Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio
through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit
cumbersome to have to do it this way though.
There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream,
because Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system.
So I definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer
the way Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.
Anyways, thanks again.
Ronald
Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> het volgende geschreven:
Hi,
The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.
If you AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the
iPhone that is in control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay
to deal with the music, and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.
The Apple TV 4K is perfectly accessible and supports Siri, thus you
can ask music to be played via the Siri remote for the Apple TV. As
long as the receiver has HDMI input, you’re good to go. There’s no
need to connect a TV for the video when playing music. There are
ways of using your iPhone as a remote for the Apple TV, but it’s not
really that necessary with the Siri remote.
I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and
outputs, but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in,
then you’ll need to confirm.
Later…
Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Tim,
Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know
if the music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but
even if it does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control
Apple Music? From the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is
my preferred method.
Ronald
Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> het volgende geschreven:
Hi Ronald,
According to this post:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734
<https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734>
Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for
some reason, the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it
will not be lossless by the time it reaches your receiver.
The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use
an Apple TV 4K connected via HDMI to the receiver. If your system
supports it, lossless and Dolby Atmos will be passed through to the
receiver from the Apple TV 4K using this setup.
Later…
Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
hello,
You are probably right there Tim, in being the track your are
playing should be in lossless if you have this setting enabled.
The problem is not every track is available in lossless yet, about
20 million Apple says. And by the end of the year they should all be.
I want to be absolutely sure my favourite music is or will be in
lossless, since I also use Qobuz for this reason (which is not
accessible enough and double the price of Apple Music).
Another issue with Apple Music could be when playing on a high end
music system. Apple Music only lets you connect through Airplay
(if supported) and I don’t know if Airplay supports lossless audio.
best,
Ronald
Op 15 jun. 2021, om 22:22 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> het volgende geschreven:
Hi,
As far as I can tell, if you’re listening to the Apple Music
version of a title, it will be lossless if you’ve set your device
to play lossless. There are other considerations as well. See
this article:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183>
Also, for an interesting read on the whole lossless, spacial
audio realm, check out the article below:
https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php
<https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php>
Later…
Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 15, 2021, at 12:06 PM, Ronald van Rhijn <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Will do., although lossless is most important to me.
thanks,
Ronald
Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:57 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via
MacVisionaries <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> het volgende geschreven:
Ronald,
In the Music app, in Apple Music, select the Browse tab. If
your device supports it, there are spacial audio playlists
there for you to check out.
Later…
Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Patrick,
Ok you came across some playlists marked with the word spatial
audio, that’s good to know. The word Spatial, was that in the
name of the playlist or an additional tag?
Ronald
Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:47 heeft Patrick Ford
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> het
volgende geschreven:
Hi, I have noticed that there are a number of playlists
designed by Apple that are marked with the words spatial
audio. These lists cover a wide variety of genres. I have
also noticed that when you select lossless files in your
preferences all the music which has not been downloaded will
play in this format.
The bummer for me is that, unless I am misunderstanding, you
cannot appreciate the spatial audio unless you are wearing a
headset and I think certain TV's. I have a surround sound
system but sadly it will not play the spatial audio.
Patrick
Come and See
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On Jun 15, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Ronald van Rhijn
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,
Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac
and/or iPhone already?
I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless
format with Voice Over. And if so, where exactly is this
info found. Perhaps its due to me still running Catalina,
but I never hear any info about lossless quality when
browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for Dolby
Atmos/Spatial Audio.
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