I will of course start with the same caveat that others have offered - that this is a very subjective decision. But I agree with Anders and Mary. I like Apple Music a lot. It is very accessible as Anders says. I also like how it interfaces with my Music library. For example, if I tell Siri to play an album from my library, that album will play, and then Apple Music will keep playing music that is similar to that album until I tell it to stop. I’ve discovered quite a bit of new music that way.
I have Apple Music, free Pandora, and free Spotify. Of the three, my favorite is Apple Music. If you use Siri a lot to play music, I think Apple Music is the easiest. Pandora works pretty well, and, though I haven’t tried it, I think there’ve been improvements in how Spotify works with Siri. But I find Apple Music to be most seamless. Cheers, Donna > On Jun 18, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: > > Hi! > I think you should stay. > Apple Music is really good. > And I think its good in terms of accessibility too. > /A > >> 18 juni 2021 kl. 15:50 skrev Rebecca Sabo <beckyas...@gmail.com >> <mailto:beckyas...@gmail.com>>: >> >> Hi all >> I have a free subscription of Apple Music, I got it when I got my iPad. My >> free subscription ends in July. What should I do should I stay or is your >> and your subscription? Thanks >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Ronald, >> >> You’re most welcome. Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or >> AirPlay 2 protocol would be a great solution. It would be interesting if >> Apple made the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in >> the way that they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s. This would >> make things extremely easy in my opinion. I know that Spotify is available >> on my AV receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole >> Apple TV connection may not be needed. >> >> Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and >> disadvantages to both devices. Of course, it likely depends on your use >> case, your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors. >> Here’s an article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and >> drawbacks of each. >> >> https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/ >> <https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/> >> >> Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own >> biases. >> >> Later… >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Jamf Certified Tech >> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >> Apple Teacher >> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl >>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Tim, >>> >>> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it! >>> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio >>> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit >>> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. >>> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because >>> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all. >>> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I >>> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that. >>> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the >>> way Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet. >>> >>> Anyways, thanks again. >>> >>> Ronald >>> >>> >>> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> het volgende geschreven: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver. If >>>> you AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that >>>> is in control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the >>>> music, and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth. The Apple TV 4K is >>>> perfectly accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be >>>> played via the Siri remote for the Apple TV. As long as the receiver has >>>> HDMI input, you’re good to go. There’s no need to connect a TV for the >>>> video when playing music. There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote >>>> for the Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote. >>>> >>>> I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and >>>> outputs, but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then >>>> you’ll need to confirm. >>>> >>>> Later… >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>> Apple Teacher >>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl >>>>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if >>>>> the music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if >>>>> it does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? >>>>> From the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred >>>>> method. >>>>> >>>>> Ronald >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> het volgende geschreven: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ronald, >>>>>> >>>>>> According to this post: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734 >>>>>> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734> >>>>>> >>>>>> Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for some >>>>>> reason, the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it will not be >>>>>> lossless by the time it reaches your receiver. >>>>>> >>>>>> The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use an >>>>>> Apple TV 4K connected via HDMI to the receiver. If your system supports >>>>>> it, lossless and Dolby Atmos will be passed through to the receiver from >>>>>> the Apple TV 4K using this setup. >>>>>> >>>>>> Later… >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl >>>>>>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are probably right there Tim, in being the track your are playing >>>>>>> should be in lossless if you have this setting enabled. The problem is >>>>>>> not every track is available in lossless yet, about 20 million Apple >>>>>>> says. And by the end of the year they should all be. >>>>>>> I want to be absolutely sure my favourite music is or will be in >>>>>>> lossless, since I also use Qobuz for this reason (which is not >>>>>>> accessible enough and double the price of Apple Music). >>>>>>> Another issue with Apple Music could be when playing on a high end >>>>>>> music system. Apple Music only lets you connect through Airplay (if >>>>>>> supported) and I don’t know if Airplay supports lossless audio. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> best, >>>>>>> Ronald >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 22:22 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> het volgende geschreven: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As far as I can tell, if you’re listening to the Apple Music version >>>>>>>> of a title, it will be lossless if you’ve set your device to play >>>>>>>> lossless. There are other considerations as well. See this article: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183 >>>>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, for an interesting read on the whole lossless, spacial audio >>>>>>>> realm, check out the article below: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 12:06 PM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl >>>>>>>>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Will do., although lossless is most important to me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>> Ronald >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:57 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> het volgende geschreven: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ronald, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In the Music app, in Apple Music, select the Browse tab. If your >>>>>>>>>> device supports it, there are spacial audio playlists there for you >>>>>>>>>> to check out. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Patrick, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ok you came across some playlists marked with the word spatial >>>>>>>>>>> audio, that’s good to know. The word Spatial, was that in the name >>>>>>>>>>> of the playlist or an additional tag? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ronald >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:47 heeft Patrick Ford >>>>>>>>>>>> <xplorer1...@gmail.com <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> het >>>>>>>>>>>> volgende geschreven: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I have noticed that there are a number of playlists designed >>>>>>>>>>>> by Apple that are marked with the words spatial audio. These lists >>>>>>>>>>>> cover a wide variety of genres. I have also noticed that when you >>>>>>>>>>>> select lossless files in your preferences all the music which has >>>>>>>>>>>> not been downloaded will play in this format. >>>>>>>>>>>> The bummer for me is that, unless I am misunderstanding, you >>>>>>>>>>>> cannot appreciate the spatial audio unless you are wearing a >>>>>>>>>>>> headset and I think certain TV's. 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