Hi, I don’t have such issue. I use Terminal and Safari and sometimes Reminders, and notes for my work. I almost don’t use TextEdit. Sometime I find it buggy and pages does the job almost all the tie with MS word documents specifically.
I don’t use Activities or different configurations for VoiceOver for different apps or something like that. I just made Alex suitable enough to handle both code reading and reading a new topic, … etc. I found the sweet spot where you don’t need to change much settings for me. I use late 2016 15” MBP with Mac OS 11.4. I hope it may help someway in getting a solution. Notify me if I misunderstood or miss something. Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed > On 24 Jun 2021, at 2:10 AM, Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Jeff, > > Yes I experience the same thing. It seems as though the system sound which is > a legacy synth (the one that uses the say command line tool) and is somewhat > in a different channel from the voice over we use to navigate around. When > you look at various settings in the voice over utility, you'll see that we > can change voices depending on the type of interface element or state it is > in. I found that the more different settings are there, the slower the voice > over becomes, so there might be a default in which all instances of the > speech synth are declared on system launch, and the checks of what state vo > is in will introduce delays, and consequently these hangups, particularly > when we often switch windows or have shortcuts that do this quicker than say > a mouse clicker would. > > If you slow down the navigation when voice over starts to act up, you will > notice that every item does get announced. So this is a function of the speed > at which we navigate. It's a rather critical bug to my opinion. > > Yuma > > > >> On 23 Jun 2021, at 9:51 pm, Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name> wrote: >> >> Hi Yuma, >> >> I had/have a similar issue. I discussed this with the accessibility team a >> month or more ago and submitted all kinds of data from my machine. They >> said that what I submitted was useful and they were working on a fix. This >> was a couple of updates ago, but nothing has been fixed yet. >> >> In my case, it isn’t system announcements, rather it is just navigating >> around with Voiceover. It happens to me, on average, every five - ten >> minutes when I’m really working at my computer. >> >> I don’t know if this is because we are power users and are frequently >> jumping from Safari, to Textedit, to terminal and back again. >> >> This only happens on my M1 machine running Big Sur. >> >> So, I feel your pain but don’t have a solution for you yet—other than the >> turning Voiceover off and on hack. >> >> Jeff >> >> >>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I tried different approaches to getting rid of the issue where voice over >>> mutes every other announcement. For example, if I have 3 UI elements in an >>> app, only the first and third will announce correctly while navigating an >>> interface, or when in some text, only the odd or even line will announce. >>> >>> The hot fix for now is to toggle voice over off and back on, but honestly >>> after a full day of doing this, it starts to get on my nerves, in a serious >>> way. >>> >>> Anyone have this problem as well? It seems as though the OS's way of >>> dealing with multiple voices is just not up to par if you either a have an >>> english region such as australia or the UK, meaning the system voice >>> default is one voice, but your choice of another english voice conflicts >>> somewhat. or you have a system language other than english but use english >>> as well. In my case, I use Alex but the system default voice is the >>> australian rachel. I changed settings for the system voice to be alex, but >>> the system still takes both instances of alex as different voices, which >>> seems to introduce this issue. >>> >>> I'd really like anyone on this list spending time on the beta to make a >>> request on this issue. I've stopped doing bug reports several years ago as >>> I just don't have the time to write these reports. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Yuma >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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