Thanks for that perspective. I bet the M1 chip will make live text processing even better particularly if it can be done on device and not sent to the cloud.
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 11:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files Hi, This Apple Insider article may shed some more light on things for you: https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/06/07/macos-montereys-live-text-allows-users-to-interact-with-text-in-any-image Essentially, we just need to wait a little while for it to be properly integrated. Regular VoiceOver Recognition has its uses, but Live Text is the next generation. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 2, 2021, at 7:13 PM, skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: Okay, as I understand it, VoiceOver Recognition will provide image recognition in apps and on websites, but I see nothing about OCR for documents. Thanks again for the resource. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 5:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files Hi, For information about VoiceOver Recognition, see this link: https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/voiceover/vocbaf20181f/mac Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 2, 2021, at 3:43 PM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net <mailto:wb...@swbell.net> > wrote: It is right where Tim said. In the VoiceOver Utility, last item at the bottom of the categories table. - Brad - On Jul 2, 2021, at 16:33, Lorie McCloud <lorice...@gmail.com <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com> > wrote: where is it on a Mac Mini? you probably remember I'm running Catalina. On Jul 2, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net <mailto:wb...@swbell.net> > wrote: I have VoiceOver Recognition on both my 2018 Mac mini, and 2019 MacBook Pro 13. Both are Intel Macs, and both are running Big Sur 11.4. - Brad - On Jul 2, 2021, at 16:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Hi, I believe that it is only available on the M1 Macs. It is the last item in the list of categories. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 2, 2021, at 2:47 PM, Lorie McCloud <lorice...@gmail.com <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com> > wrote: Where is voiceover recognition in the vo utility? I looked for it in there but couldn't find it. thanks. Lorie On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:02 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Hi, Did you make sure that VoiceOver Recognition was enabled within the VO Utility? If that is enabled, you should, at least, get VoiceOver to announce that it is a document with text on it. Otherwise, apps like Acrobat DC or PDFPen can do the OCR for you. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 2, 2021, at 6:17 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi Tim, I followed your instructions. When I invoked the text recognition command, it reported no image description available. Was the Full N an app? Does this mean I can perform OCR on a pdf as can be done with Acrobat? Actually, in Windows, I used the Jaws facility to extract text that was identified as an empty document. My work space may not accommodate a scanner, so I would like to use software in these instances. Thanks. Best, Les On Jul 1, 2021, at 4:10 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Hi, Normally, you navigate to the Document area, interact with it, then if it has multiple pages, they will be listed. Interact with the page you wish to read and the text will be read by VO. If it requires OCR, you can try pressing VO-shift-l to see if VO will read it to you. If VO-shift-l does not work, first make sure that VoiceOver Recognition is enabled in the VoiceOver Utility, then try again. If it still doesn’t work for you, you may need to use full on OCR like in Acrobat DC. 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