I think this is what first tripped me up. I remember the old approach, but I'm now on Big Sur.
Janina Brad Snyder writes: > That would be correct. > This changed a few versions ago, but I can’t remember exactly with which > version. If you say it is different in Mojave, then the changed happened > with Catalina. Prior to the change, there was a checkbox to enable VoiceOver > in the Start Up Options section of Users & Groups, within System Preferences. > > Since Janina said she was using Big Sur 11.5.2, the instructions I gave are > correct for the version she is running. > > - Brad - > > > On Sep 3, 2021, at 21:06, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Brad, > This does not appear to be consistent with Mojave. I suspect this is for > Catalina or Big Sur? > > Dave Carlson > Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer > > On Sep 3, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: > > Sorry Greg, that won’t do it. > > To enable VoiceOver at the log on screen, one needs to do the following: > 1. Go to System Preferences > Users & Groups. > 2. In the Users, groups and login options table, select Login options. > 3. Select the Lock to Make Changes, and enter the Admin password for your > machine. > 4. Navigate to the Accessibility Options… button, and press VO + Spacebar to > open. > 5. Select VoiceOver from the table, and then select Apply, to save changes > and exit the dialog. > > HTH. > > - Brad - > > > On Sep 3, 2021, at 14:49, Greg Wocher <gtwoc...@gmail.com > <mailto:gtwoc...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hello, > It is under the accessibility settings in system preferences. There is a > table in these settings with different categories and one of them is > VoiceOver. In the VoiceOver settings here there is a checkbox for enabling > VoiceOver. I think this is the one you want. > > Greg WOcher > > > > On Sep 3, 2021, at 3:07 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > For some silly reason I can no longer recall I did not choose to have > > Voice Over start automatically when I boot my Mac Mini. So, I'm forever > > doing Command F5 before logging in. It's getting old, but I'm also not > > finding where to undo this choice and choose to have Voice Over > > auto-enabled on startup for the login. > > > > I'm poking around in Users and Groups but not finding this as a login > > option. Seems I'm missing something obvious, but I am stumped. > > > > This is Big Sur 11.15.2. Any help gratefully accepted. > > > > Janina > > > > Kliph writes: > >> You have a lot of great questions, and no there is no audio highjack app > >> for the iPad, but there are programs that will record audio. Probably not > >> the way you want to though. I have a audio editing group that discusses > >> all the ways editing audio can be done, I will put that info below. As > >> for the MacBook Air questions, I do a lot of free consultations and even > >> partner with a few others for the stuff I don’t know. So if you haven’t > >> gotten your answer, send me an email off list. > >> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all > >> the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files > >> sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here > >> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io > >> <mailto:audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io> > >> <mailto:audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io > >> <mailto:audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io>>Even explore my Tutorials > >> <https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0JbtMF46Bawfj0O02aTSAcJEw#editing_audio_tutorials > >> > >> <https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0JbtMF46Bawfj0O02aTSAcJEw#editing_audio_tutorials>> > >> and SoundEffects Folder > >> <https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/063P7bU9RkC56Vdw_V5QaMf1Q#Ring_tone&Alerts_library > >> > >> <https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/063P7bU9RkC56Vdw_V5QaMf1Q#Ring_tone&Alerts_library>> > >> to receive updated resources > >> Let’s master editing audio together! > >> > >> > >>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 4:51 AM, Frank Ventura > >>> <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com > >>> <mailto:frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Terri, no I do not think there is an equivalent to Audio Hijack for > >>> the iPad. You would probably have to run the audio out of the iPad and > >>> then back in. That really isn’t practical. I think the Macintosh solution > >>> is a good idea. Do you need portability or can you make do with a Mac > >>> mini and a wireless keyboard? Do you have a budget for this project? > >>> Audio recordings can eat up a great deal of disk space quickly. A 1TB or > >>> larger hard drive is a good idea. > >>> Frank Ventura > >>> > >>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 12:39 AM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com > >>>> <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello everyone, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> First of all, I would like to say thank you to all of you who took the > >>>> time to try and help me out. I really appreciate all the great > >>>> information, and thoughts. It has really helped me to understand things, > >>>> when it comes to Macbooks. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Karen asked if I would like to explain my goals. I appreciate this, > >>>> because I think that could be helpful. I think it might help me figure > >>>> out what exactly I might need. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> So my main goal is to be able to purchase a device, such as a Mac, or an > >>>> iPad, so that I can record audio. I am huge into collecting audio > >>>> described content. We have Spectrum cable. Some of the channels that > >>>> carry audio described content that I would like to capture, don't carry > >>>> the audio description over my cable box. > >>>> > >>>> However, I can get it, using the Spectrum App. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> So I would like to be able to use a program like audio hijack, and > >>>> capture the streaming audio. I want to go to the Spectrum site, and > >>>> stream the channel I want, and capture the audio description. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> That is the main thing I am hoping to do. I could use my windows laptop. > >>>> But in order to do this, I would have to go through many steps to make > >>>> this happen. Including purchasing a sound card. > >>>> > >>>> But then I would not be able to easily access my laptop for other > >>>> things. Such as checking mail, and all the other things that I do. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> These are my thoughts. What do you all think? > >>>> > >>>> I would consider purchasing an iPad. I am open to doing this. But when I > >>>> had one years ago, the main thing I didn't care for, was how the screen > >>>> would sometimes be in colomns. There didn't seem a way to make this > >>>> optional. Or stop it from happening. I found this to be rather > >>>> frustrating, and chalenging for me. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> But also, does the audio hijack program even work on an iPad? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thank you, and I look forward to hearing what you all might have to say. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Terri > >>>> > >>>> On 8/21/2021 2:53 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > >>>>> Hi Terri, > >>>>> May I ask how you define doing lots of audio recording? > >>>>> It seems important here, because you will want the hardware to support > >>>>> your needs. > >>>>> The programs you use have their own requirements. If you use external > >>>>> recording related equipment, that will matter as well. > >>>>> I hope? this offer comes from a reliable source, so the machine is as > >>>>> advertised etc. > >>>>> Do you want to share more on your goals? > >>>>> Karen > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021, skipper8...@gmail.com > >>>>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Are you referring to the Mac at Walmart? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Apple-MacBook-Air-11-6-quot-Core-i5-2467M-Dual-Core-1-6GHz-4GB-128GB-SSD-LED-Notebook/457538391?wmlspartner=wlpa > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <https://www.walmart.com/ip/Apple-MacBook-Air-11-6-quot-Core-i5-2467M-Dual-Core-1-6GHz-4GB-128GB-SSD-LED-Notebook/457538391?wmlspartner=wlpa> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <https://www.walmart.com/ip/Apple-MacBook-Air-11-6-quot-Core-i5-2467M-Dual-Core-1-6GHz-4GB-128GB-SSD-LED-Notebook/457538391?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=10746&&adid=22222222227079329219&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=191983629258&wl4=aud-1219917706781:pla-493523799072&wl5=1015236&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=117097862&wl11=online&wl12=457538391&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpf2IBhDkARIsAGVo0D2zGHiV2r7L2Mufjuk1gYyYD23I5LyqkNTPwkZl7zBrTIyUeX1o1xkaAvPKEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <https://www.walmart.com/ip/Apple-MacBook-Air-11-6-quot-Core-i5-2467M-Dual-Core-1-6GHz-4GB-128GB-SSD-LED-Notebook/457538391?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=10746&&adid=22222222227079329219&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=191983629258&wl4=aud-1219917706781:pla-493523799072&wl5=1015236&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=117097862&wl11=online&wl12=457538391&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpf2IBhDkARIsAGVo0D2zGHiV2r7L2Mufjuk1gYyYD23I5LyqkNTPwkZl7zBrTIyUeX1o1xkaAvPKEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> &selectedSellerId=10746&&adid=22222222227079329219&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=191983629258&wl4=aud-1219917706781:pla-493523799072&wl5=1015236&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=117097862&wl11=online&wl12=457538391&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpf2IBhDkARIsAGVo0D2zGHiV2r7L2Mufjuk1gYyYD23I5LyqkNTPwkZl7zBrTIyUeX1o1xkaAvPKEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Mountain Lion is a really old operating system, and the site says that > >>>>>> there are cracks? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Not sure. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If I were you I would see if there are still older Dell Macbooks > >>>>>> around. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 6:01 PM > >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Interested in purchasing a Macbook Air > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hello everyone, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sorry, I didn't mean to leave that information out. It states that it > >>>>>> is the latest model. Just that it is refurbished. The model number is, > >>>>>> MC969LL/A. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I hope this helps? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Terri > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 8/20/2021 4:53 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi we need to know how old is > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 > >>>>>> <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>> for Windows 10 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> From: Terri Stimmel <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com > >>>>>> <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 4:42 PM > >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > >>>>>> Subject: Interested in purchasing a Macbook Air > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hello everyone, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> My boyfriend found a deal for a refurbished Macbook Air. I am very > >>>>>> > >>>>>> interested in purchasing this. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> However, I would like to get some opinions on it, if at all possible. I > >>>>>> > >>>>>> don't know much about using a Mac. I have always wanted to use one. I > >>>>>> > >>>>>> know in some ways they can have limits though. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would mainly like to be able to do a lot of different audio > >>>>>> recording. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I currently use an HP laptop for the majority of things. And probably > >>>>>> > >>>>>> still will. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Anyway, this Macbook Air has 4 Gigs of RAM, Intel Core I 5, 1.6 GHZ, > >>>>>> 128 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> GB SSD. It doesn't state what version of the operating system it comes > >>>>>> with. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Does this possibly mean it doesn't include one? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Also, how likely is it that this could be updated, if at some point I > >>>>>> > >>>>>> wanted to do this? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Any thoughts are much appreciated. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Terri > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >>>>>> Visionaries list. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > >>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > >>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > >>>>>> itself. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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