Hi Tim,
very interesting. 
I always wondered why a VO user could want to move a window. Would you aggree 
this is only useful if you are partially sighted? Or is there anything I don't 
understand? 
Thanks and all the best
Jürgen 
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> Am 03.02.2022 um 23:14 schrieb 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> <Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Further to my previous notes on this, see the following Apple article for 
> specific VO commands related to window manipulation:
> 
> https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/voiceover/mchlp2709/mac
> 
> In looking at these, I don’t believe there is a specific command within 
> VoiceOver itself for what you asked.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 15:05, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Cmd-ctrl-f will put the window into Full Screen.  Alternatively, in some 
>> windows, you’ll find the Close, Minimize and Zoom buttons as the first items 
>> on the screen.  Use VO-FN-left then VO-left to move to the Full Screen, 
>> Zoom, Minimize and Close buttons.  Some windows do not have the Zoom option, 
>> just the Full Screen.  Zoom normally expands/collapses the window between 
>> its current size and as big as it would fit on the screen while still having 
>> the menubar visible.  Full Screen visually takes away the menu bar as well 
>> and uses the entire screen to display the window.  The same cmd-ctrl-f 
>> command will toggle it out of Full Screen mode.
>> 
>> Not sure if this is what you’re looking for, but it may help.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 14:57, Chuck Reichel <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> I need to make some windows larger or zoomed to their biggest size.
>>> I know that VO tilde and VO shift tilde moves in small increments up or 
>>> down or left or right but I need to make the whole window grow to its 
>>> largest size to access certain menus in my pro tools plugin windows.
>>> What is the command to make any window expand to its largest size please?
>>> Thanks
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
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