Hi! I wonder if you could make use of the shortcuts app on the phone. So you can creat a shortcut which will work on all your apple devices. I don’t have these speakers so I can not try this at my home. /A
> 9 feb. 2022 kl. 20:58 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: > > That did work. I wish there was a way to accomplish that without issuing > multiple play commands, but I guess it is what it is. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Feb 9, 2022, at 1:54 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> <Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com <mailto:Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> If you wish to have music play on additional speakers, try using the phrase, >> “Hey Siri, also play this in such and such room”, of course substituting >> such and such room with the specific room that your Home app believes has >> those specific speakers. That works for me when I want the currently >> playing music from the HomePods to also play on my Minis, or on my Yamaha >> surround sound system, or the Bose sound bar. >> >> Later… >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Jamf Certified Tech >> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >> Apple Teacher >> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 12:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Tim, >>> >>> I may not have been clear about this. Our sound system is a combination of >>> Homepods, HomePod minis, and Sonos speakers. Intercom works fine on all >>> the Apple speakers. The two things that don’t work are Siri commands >>> asking it to play music that is in my library, and getting it to connect to >>> the Sonos speakers. >>> >>> I just tried moving the two Sonos that are in the dining room into the >>> kitchen in the home app. I can now say Play on the kitchen, and it seems >>> to play on both the Apple and the Sonos speakers, that is all speakers that >>> the home app thinks are in the kitchen. But the minute I try to add a >>> second room to the grouping, it messes up. And it does so in a weird way. >>> It doesn’t play to the second room, it does play on the Sonos speakers that >>> it thinks are in the kitchen, but it doesn’t play on the HomePod that is >>> our central hub. >>> >>> And to answer your questions about proximity, since all this started, if >>> I’m talking to the Kitchen HomePod, I always get up and walk over to it, >>> leaving my iPhone or iPad in the other room. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 12:35 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>> <Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com <mailto:Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Donna, >>>> >>>> On your iPhone or iPad, go to your Home app. Do all the rooms and devices >>>> within those rooms show as responsive? Next, if you have the intercom >>>> feature enabled, try asking Siri to intercom to such and such of room >>>> where the HomePods are registered. So, you would say “Hey Siri, intercom >>>> the Living Room, why are these HomePods being so stupid?” What you’ve >>>> said to your iPhone/iPad should be said in the Living Room, or whatever >>>> room the HomePods were registered in when implementing the intercom >>>> command. If you have multiple rooms with HomePods or HomePod Minis, try >>>> doing the intercom command from one room to the other. If all that works >>>> fine, try asking Siri to play the album from a different set of HomePods >>>> or Minis. I’m trying to determine here if it is the specific HomePod or >>>> HomePod set, HomePod mini or HomePod mini set, or something different. >>>> >>>> You did say that Siri responded better when you asked her to play the >>>> album on your iPhone or iPad I believe? This does make it seem like >>>> there’s an issue with the HOmePods, but it’s difficult to narrow down. >>>> >>>> Do you have your iPhone or iPad nearby when asking Siri to do things on >>>> the HomePods or Minis? I ask this because there is sort of a proximity >>>> thing with Siri. That is, the closest device will hear the request, but >>>> if Siri believes that the request is directed at a different device than >>>> the closest one, she will transfer the request over to the appropriate >>>> device. So, if your iPad or iPhone is right beside you, and the HomePods >>>> are in the same room, and you ask her to play such and such an album, she >>>> should recognize that you want that on the HomePods automatically and >>>> transfer the request over to the HomePods even though the closest device >>>> was your iPhone/iPad. With this in mind, sometimes, the iPhone or iPad’s >>>> on-device Siri recognition will do some of the work then move the request >>>> to the HomePods and you might get better results. >>>> >>>> All sorts of straw grasping here. I hope something helps you either make >>>> it work better, or it just resolves itself. >>>> >>>> Later… >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>> Apple Teacher >>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 06:25, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So this has almost gotten commical. Here is what I did this morning. >>>>> >>>>> First, I told the homepod to play an album, which failed, as expected. >>>>> So I decided to see if I could trick her into doing what I want, so I >>>>> told her to play that artist. I then just kept saying Next Track until >>>>> she finally played a track from the album i had originally wanted. Then >>>>> I said Play this album. Lo and behold, my album started playing. >>>>> >>>>> The next challenge was to have the music played in the room where I was >>>>> actually sitting. Ever since the update, Siri doesn’t play to my Sonos >>>>> speakers. I think the problem is that when I say Kitchen, Dining room, >>>>> and family room, she thinks I’m talking about one speaker called >>>>> kitchendiningroomandfamilyroom. So, I had to go to my iPad, open the >>>>> control center, open media controls, and select the speakers I wanted >>>>> manually. I think you may be right, Joe, it’s easier to just use Sonos, >>>>> even though you don’t have voice control—or we don’t, b/c we don’t use >>>>> Alexa. >>>>> >>>>> I thought Alexa was more reliable. Glad to hear it isn’t just Siri. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 4:52 AM, joseph hodge <josephlho...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree this sounds awful. It’s honestly one of the reasons I’ve kind >>>>>> of given up on voice assistance for now you never know what you’re going >>>>>> to get. Alexa is often OK but then randomly it doesn’t work. I guess we >>>>>> could say the same for operating systems to appoint but I like the old >>>>>> way of just using Sonos to the phone or airplane etc. Hope this gets >>>>>> fixed by Apple because it’s ridiculous that it’s not working for you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 9:07 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Huh! Weird. Nope, no joy here. I was finally able to get Siri to >>>>>>> play the album I want by telling her to play artist, keep saying next >>>>>>> track till she played one from the album I wanted, and then say Play >>>>>>> Album. But it just shouldn’t be that hard. >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 6:48 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>> <Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All good with Siri up here in Canada. I asked four different times to >>>>>>>> play albums. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Hey Siri, play Taproot Manuscript by Neil Diamond. >>>>>>>> 2. Hey Siri, play Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys. >>>>>>>> 3. Hey Siri, play the album 1X by Three Days Grace >>>>>>>> 4. Hey Siri, play Divide by Ed Sheeran. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Each one worked as it should. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 13:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey, Tim, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I’ll be curious to hear what you find out. I have converted albums >>>>>>>>> with unusual or foreign language names to playlist, and I agree that >>>>>>>>> does make it easier to play them >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 10:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>> <Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I haven’t experienced this on my HomePods. Although, I seldom ask >>>>>>>>>> Siri to play an album per se. I usually ask her to play a specific >>>>>>>>>> playlist from my library, or to play music that I like. I will >>>>>>>>>> check on this though when I get home. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PS. If you do decide to dispose of your HomePods, let me know and >>>>>>>>>> I’ll take the full-sized ones off your hands :). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 08:40, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anders, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When they work, they are awesome. And mine were working fine until >>>>>>>>>>> this last update. I do think Apple broke something in a big way. >>>>>>>>>>> As much as I like the HomePod and the mini, at the point that you >>>>>>>>>>> spend a half hour just trying to play an album and aren’t even >>>>>>>>>>> successful in the end, they aren’t worth it. >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 8:36 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Donna! >>>>>>>>>>>> You sem to have a lot of trouble with your home pod. >>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t own one because they’re not sold in Sweden I think. >>>>>>>>>>>> But I thank you for indirectly recommending something else. >>>>>>>>>>>> /A >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 feb. 2022 kl. 14:32 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I just spent a half hour trying to get an album to play on my >>>>>>>>>>>>> Homepod and various Sonos speakers. Eventually, I just gave up >>>>>>>>>>>>> and played it on the Sonos speakers using the Sonos app. And >>>>>>>>>>>>> since the last update, this has been happening at least once a >>>>>>>>>>>>> day. I regularly get one of two error messages, either the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Homepod can’t find the requested content in my Apple Music >>>>>>>>>>>>> library, or that it can’t find the speaker. It doesn’t seem to >>>>>>>>>>>>> matter whether I’m using Siri on the Homepod, or trying to play >>>>>>>>>>>>> music from either my phone or iPad. And yes, I have unplugged and >>>>>>>>>>>>> reconnected the HomePod, and also done a reset. WT*! 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