Hi Jason,
One more point about this idea.
Speaking personally I feel providing a user guide within, and no where else for an operating system and adaptive technology is sort of the Severus Snape school of teaching computers. Instructions on the board, begin...for someone entirely new to adaptive technology in general, and or a new system in particular that expectation seems unfortunate. I feel this may be part of why Linux remains largely a programmers adaptive tool, too much for a new user to learn at the same time, with few external resources. For me personally, I will still likely end up finding an in-person teacher, have an in-store appointment next week in fact. When I learned to use the computer the first time I worked with an individual, got taught the basics, where to go for help, and how to learn more. To this day I still draw on those patterns, have with every new machine I have owned. So, while the user guide being here, with a frankly insane combination of keystrokes is terrific to know, that I must understand something about the computer I am seeking to understand before I can understand is not a personal positive.
Best,
Kare



On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Also, the user???s guide can be reached with Ctrl-Option-Question mark.
Apple announced that there would be new voice options in Mac OS Ventura. I 
don???t know whether any of those might be more intelligible for your purposes.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of 
Karen Lewellen <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, 15June, 2022 at 18:42
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: onboard tutorial revisited.
Hi Tim,
That got it, the reference just was not spoken clearly.  using a new voice
as well, but glad it is here.
Kare



On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Try VO-cmd-f8, that is, ctrl-option-cmd-F8.

Later???????


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 15, 2022, at 13:52, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:

Well, now that the log in request is gone, I can hopefully get started learning 
my mac better.
save that the tutorial I am anticipating seems to be missing?
to be clear, this goes back several editions, in the voiceover utility menu 
there was a tutorial with a voice guiding one through learning basic keystrokes 
and navigation.  This voice differed from  say what I assume is Alex, and helps 
you learn how things work.
However when I choose what has to be function-vo-8 to reach the utility I 
cannot find the tutorial.
Granted, I am still getting used tot his voice, and may not simply understand 
it well yet.
Still, what am I missing?  lastly, is there a command which reviews last 
information provided by voiceover? I suppose good old fashioned screen review 
may be missing smiles.
Thanks,
Karen



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