Well, hopefully it will behave better on the 14 than it does on the 12 mini. Cheers, Donna
> On Sep 15, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Herbie Allen <[email protected]> wrote: > > If getting a 14 then yes, iOS16 will be installed, and I don’t think there is > any way to roll back the iOs. > >> On Sep 15, 2022, at 11:38, Kaare Dehard <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I hope that when you get the new phone that iOS 16 isn’t pre-installed. I >> have a X R and minimal misbehaving and focus issues have been observed after >> upgrade. Annoying but nothing that’s been a show-stopper. >> >>> On Sep 15, 2022, at 10:58 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have not. I need to upgrade my phone, so I’m just hanging in there until >>> I get my 14 Pro. >>> Donna >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 15, 2022, at 9:39 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Anyone having really bad issues, have you tried resetting the phone? I >>>> know, last ditch effort, but it may fix some things and put you at the >>>> point where 16 is usable. >>>> Devin Prater >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 9:49 PM 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> Did the latter. I’ll check to make sure screen recognition is off. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> >>>> > On Sep 14, 2022, at 8:27 PM, Herbie Allen <[email protected] >>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Odd, I have not experienced this issue. I have the known bugs with the >>>> > lock screen, but everywhere else works just fine. Make sure Screen >>>> > recognition is off. Also, try turning VO off and then back on. >>>> > >>>> >> On Sep 14, 2022, at 20:25, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> >> <[email protected] >>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> No. I’m experiencing them while in various apps. One that jumps to >>>> >> mind is Mail. I frequently have trouble getting mail messages to open. >>>> >> Cheers, >>>> >> Donna >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> On Sep 14, 2022, at 8:23 PM, Herbie Allen <[email protected] >>>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Am I correct in that you are experiencing these double tapping issues >>>> >>> on the lock screen? >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 14, 2022, at 20:20, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> >>>> <[email protected] >>>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I’ve never experienced that until this upgrade. The strange thing >>>> >>>> about all this is that the behavior is very inconsistent. Sometimes >>>> >>>> I’ll double tap and everything’s good. Other times I can double-tap >>>> >>>> and double-tap forever and nothing happens. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 14, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Herbie Allen <[email protected] >>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> We have had that issue for a number of years now. What’s frustrating >>>> >>>>> is it has not been resolved. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Sep 14, 2022, at 14:21, Jessica Moss <[email protected] >>>> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> I’ve found this to be an issue as well, along with something >>>> >>>>>> strange happening with my phone screen this morning. I went into >>>> >>>>>> my recent contacts, and tried calling back someone who was close to >>>> >>>>>> the top of the screen, and ended up calling someone else instead, >>>> >>>>>> not realizing what happened. >>>> >>>>>> Then just to help prevent this from happening again, I decided to >>>> >>>>>> go into the more info menu, just to make sure I was calling the >>>> >>>>>> right person, and my screen apparently jumped again, and went into >>>> >>>>>> information for the wrong contact, and it took about 3 tries for me >>>> >>>>>> to select the right one. >>>> >>>>>> Is anyone else noticing this? >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 14, 2022, at 3:01 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> >>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> After approx 24 hours with IOS 16, I have come to the conclusion >>>> >>>>>>> that my phone is only marginally usable. In addition to the >>>> >>>>>>> swiping issue previously discussed, I’m also finding that often >>>> >>>>>>> when I tap an icon or a mail message, the item will not open. >>>> >>>>>>> Sometimes I can work around this by doing a tap and hold, but >>>> >>>>>>> other times I cannot. >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Everyone’s mileage may vary, of course, and from what I read on >>>> >>>>>>> AppleVis, the usability may vary from one model to another. FWIW, >>>> >>>>>>> I have a 12 mini. However, I wanted to post this to the list, >>>> >>>>>>> just to warn others that they might be in for a bumpy ride with >>>> >>>>>>> IOS 16. Were I you, I would wait, and hope for another release >>>> >>>>>>> that fixes some of these issues. This is the worst accessibility >>>> >>>>>>> experience I’ve ever had with Apple, since getting my first iPhone >>>> >>>>>>> in 2009. 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