hey,
Command F5 as usual but it seems to be only Apple Silicon.
I haven't spoken to anyone about this who is still using an Intel processor.
With silicon, a lot of this stuff is built-in already.

> On 6 Oct 2022, at 12:36 am, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ok,, this might work for previous versions. Did you do the usual cmd+F5 or 
> something else?
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2022, at 9:34 PM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hey all,
>> I'm sure I'm not the 1st to have discovered this but I had to go into safe 
>> mode to check something and after following the instructions to get into 
>> safe mode, I decided to try and start VoiceOver and amazingly, it worked.
>> I remember the days on the Intel systems when sometimes even external sound 
>> cards would not be detected in safe mode and that most people were using 
>> braille displays to get things done.
>> You can certainly tell you are in safe mode because at the login screen, it 
>> will say safe boot at the top.
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