I love Ventura. I've been beta testing it since its release back in June. The 
one thing I love is we finally have the Zoe voice. Zoe premium is awesome. I 
wish they would bring it back to iOS 16. And Anders, I'm with you. I'll never 
use Eloquence because I came to the Mac ecosystem to get away from Eloquence. I 
don't want Voiceover sounding like Jaws for Windblows. But hey, I'm glad the 
rest of you like it. I'll stick to Zoe premium.

Regards,
Shawn,
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> On Oct 24, 2022, at 7:40 PM, Herbie Allen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> My rates were off too. I use Siri voice 4 and I had to adjust my rate down to 
> 40%.
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 18:38, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>  Ale is present. But the speaking rate is wacky. I did a restart and this 
>> time Samantha was speaking as she shoved Alex out the door while eh tried to 
>> resist. Very strange. Using the rotor, Alex was still highlighted and came 
>> back. Speaking rate still messed up though. This is the most odd upgrade 
>> I've ever encountered.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
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>> On 10/24/2022 4:17 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>> Did we lose Alex with the Ventura update?  I noticed after updating, that 
>>> Voiceover defaulted to the Samantha voice, and Alex seems to no longer be 
>>> in the list.
>>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> I haven’t used it much but it seems nice to me.
>>>> Vo is much snappier.
>>>> I wish they could get us more  tts engines than eloquence.
>>>> Eloquence is nothing I care for as it does not have the Swedish language.
>>>> /A
>>>> 
>>>>> 24 okt. 2022 kl. 21:40 skrev Greg Wocher <[email protected]>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I just got done updating my 14 inch macbook pro and I am loving it so 
>>>>> far. My favorite feature is eloquence. I am also noticing that voiceover 
>>>>> seems to be a bit snappier with this update. I am also noticing 
>>>>> improvements in safari as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 3:13 PM, joseph hodge <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Strange how are you navigating? For me if I go to the conversation group 
>>>>>> and interact then turn on quicknav just using the arrows I am not having 
>>>>>> that issue. Then when I want to select a message I use VO plus space.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 2:52 PM, Herbie Allen <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just updated and I’m already confounded by the messages app. When I go 
>>>>>>> to a different conversation, it tells me two conversations selected. I 
>>>>>>> do love the responsiveness of of Ventura. System settings is 
>>>>>>> interesting with not having to unlock.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 12:48, joseph hodge <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I just updated and am checking it out now. Loving it so far. Finally 
>>>>>>>> can get rid of the apple scripts for time and battery plus now the 
>>>>>>>> Wifi option is cool.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>> For those of you who can update to Ventura I have just found out that 
>>>>>>>>> macOS Ventura is out.
>>>>>>>>> So i am now updating my new M1 Mac mini.
>>>>>>>>> My old MacBook Air  can not update as its from 2015.
>>>>>>>>> But it has a programUpdate to Monterey 12.6.1.
>>>>>>>>> Which I don’t care for as I will try to sell it.
>>>>>>>>> /A
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