Paul,

I found a suggestion on OSx Daily.

https://osxdaily.com/2018/05/15/make-apps-open-full-screen-mac-automatically/

Hopefully the link above will work.

OS X Daily

How to Make Apps Open in Full Screen Mode on Mac Automatically
May 15, 2018 - 27 Comments
How to make Mac apps open in full screen mode automatically
Some Mac users really enjoy full screen mode for apps and windows, so much so 
that they might want to make Mac apps open in full screen mode automatically.

While there is no system wide setting in Mac OS to make apps default to opening 
in full screen mode, there is a workaround trick that will allow many apps to 
open directly into full screen mode on the Mac.

The best way to make Mac apps default to opening in full screen mode is by 
changing your app usage behavior a bit, combined with an adjustment to a Mac OS 
system setting. The end result will be that, at least with many apps that 
support full screen mode, they will relaunch directly into full screen mode on 
the Mac. Let’s review how this workaround approach works to achieve the desired 
effect of launching Mac apps directly into full screen mode.

How to Make Full Screen Mode the Default When Opening Mac Apps
This is a two step process.

First, we’re going to make a settings adjustment in Mac OS system preferences 
that will allow Mac apps to resume their prior state they were in prior to quit.

Go to the  Apple menu and choose ‘System Preferences’ and then go to ‘General’
Uncheck the box for “Close windows when quitting an app”
Disable Close windows when quitting an in Mac OS to make Mac apps left in full 
screen mode re open in full screen mode
Close System Preferences
This setting basically makes it so that if you quit an app, windows within that 
app will not close automatically, and instead they’ll re-open to where you left 
off. This setting is essential if you want some Mac apps to default to opening 
into full screen mode.

Second, you’ll need to change app quitting behavior. If you’re accustomed to 
closing all the windows of an app when or before you quit that app, you will 
need to stop doing that. Instead, place an app into full screen mode (like 
Safari for example), and when you’re done using that app, quit it while the 
active full screen window is still open.

Open an app and place it into Full Screen Mode as usual (for example, Safari)
When finished using that app, leave the full screen mode window active, even if 
it’s a new blank document or webpage, it must have an active full screen window 
left open
Quit the app as usual, while that full screen window is active, and do not 
discard any open windows
Upon relaunching that Mac app, it will open directly into Full Screen Mode by 
default
Repeat with other apps as necessary
Assuming you followed the steps correctly, and you continue to quit apps while 
that app is still active with a window in Full Screen Mode, when relaunching 
the app it will be immediately in full screen mode on the Mac.

Putting it All Together: Relaunching Mac Apps Directly Into Full Screen Mode
For this to work properly, you have to follow the above sequence:

You must quit the app while the apps primary window is still in Full Screen Mode
AND, you must have disabled the “Close Windows when quitting apps” feature in 
Mac OS system settings
The system setting change is critical, because it causes Mac apps to basically 
resume their they left off upon relaunching. This means if you had previously 
enabled the “Close windows when quitting apps” feature in Mac OS so that app 
launching behavior is like what it used to be in older versions of Mac OS, then 
you’ll have to disable it.

Of course you can also just use your Mac apps as you always have, quitting and 
resuming whether in Full Screen Mode or not, and just get accustomed to making 
a window full screen on the Mac either with the use of a keyboard shortcut to 
enter and exit Full Screen Mode in Mac OS, a menu option, or the green button 
to toggle in and out of full screen mode, but that’s up to you, and obviously 
it won’t be automatic.

This trick works with all Mac apps that completely support Full Screen Mode in 
Mac OS, like Safari, Mail, Messages, Terminal, etc, but it may not work as well 
with some apps that aren’t designed to be used in full screen mode, and it 
definitely won’t work in any app which doesn’t support the feature to begin 
with.
So that’s the workaround to attempt to default to open Mac apps into full 
screen mode. For now that’s the best method to achieve that result, but perhaps 
a future version of Mac OS system software will offer a universal settings 
toggle somewhere in system preferences that allows Mac apps to default into 
full screen mode. There could be other options out there too, so if you know of 
another method of launching Mac apps directly into full screen mode, share them 
in the comments below!

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Dave Carlson

Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Pioneer, and Musician
dgcarlson0...@gmail.com



On Nov 12, 2022, at 10:45 AM, Paul Hopewell <hopew...@hopewell.org.uk> wrote:

Hello,
When I used Windows with the WindowEyes screen reader many years ago I set up 
Windows so that the window I was working on filled the entire screen with the 
menu bar at the top. I then used Alt+Tab to switch between windows and 
applications  with the new window again filling the whole screen. If I needed 
to consult a sighted person the window of interest was always visible with no 
part of it obscured by some other window. I found this a great way to work. I 
vaguely recall that there was a Windows option to maximise all windows which 
helped achieve the above.
I would like to set up my iMac to work like this. It seems that Stage Manager 
with only thumbnails for other windows for for the current application 
displayed in the left hand side would do the job, but I am confused by the 
relationship between Stage Manager, Full Screen, and Mission Control spaces.
Prior to Ventura I sometimes needed to seek help from my sighted wife who 
complained about too many windows open on my display some of which obscured the 
window of interest. Not being able to see the screen I could not help her to 
reposition the obscuring windows and we usually had to close applications other 
than the application of interest. My wife also says that she cannot use my 
external track pad to move the windows cursor beyond the bottom of the 
currently displayed window, while I have no problem doing this using my 
keyboard and VoiceOver.
I would appreciate any advice on how to best arrange windows in Ventura which 
is helpful to both sighted users and VO users.
Many thanks … Paul Hopewell

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