Thanks much for such a detailed answer! Does a Safari page open already interacted?
Thanks! From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Bradford Snyder Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2022 4:17 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My Homepage in Safari, Youtube The term “layout” is not correct. The layout is unchanged. What changes is how you are navigating the Safari window. It does not matter if you have QuickNab on or off, because the keyboard commands you are using are regular VO commands. The command VO + Fn + Left Arrow, should move your VO focus to the top left corner of the web page area, if you have already interacted with the browser area. Once your focus is at the top left of the web page, with QuickNab on, pressing H, will move your focus to the first heading element on the page. When your focus lands on the control buttons (Closed, Minimize buttons), this is the top left corner of the entire Safari window, and you must have pressed VO + Fn + CMD + Left Arrow, because this is the VO command that moves your focus to this location. When you find your focus here, you can press VO + Fn + Right Arrow to move your focus to the web page area, where you will need to interact. Once you interact, your focus will be at the top left corner of the web page area, which is apparently where you are intending to be. HTH. - Brad - On Dec 4, 2022, at 17:39, Fazil M. <mfa...@outlook.com <mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi, Group. I use Safari and Youtube is my homepage. When I open the Browser and hit VO-FN-Left-Arrow with Quick Nav on to go to the beginning of the page, I find Banner, guide and eventually heading with letter h. I am very happy with this layout. 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