Hi,

I was looking at it again.

I'm just an idiot at Maps. *smiles* What happens when I hit "Start tracking" is 
that "Start tracking with heading" pops up. However, it seems to disappear 
again if I move away from it. Even if I click on it, it'll say "Disable 
tracking". That's fine. I still get the directions though where I have to go 
either forwards, or backwards to view them. It's probably just me not 
understanding the application. Maybe I'm expecting Maps to continuously update 
the directions textually. I don't even know if it can or not, however, as I 
said it's probably just me. I'd like to use it, though.

Regards,
Nic
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On Apr 8, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Nic,
> 
> There's a "Start Tracking with Heading" button in the lower left of the Maps 
> app screen that you might explore.  It seems to lock on your current 
> location, and maybe switch you to one of the map views with your current 
> location.  Also, in a viphone list post titled "Your location question in GPS 
> apps like Navigon and Maps" back in February, I discussed the location 
> accuracy of Google Maps vs. the assisted GPS triangulation (which, by the 
> way, is one of the features of the iPad+3G models slated for release later 
> this month), and determining your address with the "Current position" pin.  
> I'll paste that in here below my sig if you want to review it and experiment.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
>> From: Esther
>> Date: 16 February 2010
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Your location question in GPS apps like Navigon and Maps
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> A couple of weeks ago a new user asked about getting location as a street 
>> address or intersection, and was pointed to i-map-u (by me for U.S. 
>> locations), A1 GPS Pro (by Brett, for locations outside of the U.S.), and by 
>> using the "IconWhereAmI" button in App Genie (by Mark).  Geoff pointed out 
>> that Navigon's MobileNavigator also gives this information if you double 
>> click on the "More" button and then double click the "DirectHelp" option, 
>> where you'll get a message giving "Your approximated position" as an address 
>> as well as estimated distance from an intersection, and the latitude and 
>> longitude that most apps that "tell you your location" seem to provide.  
>> (This feature presumably works for other countries, though we haven't heard 
>> back a report from other Navigon users outside the U.S.  It doesn't have the 
>> one click convenience of i-map-u, but does provide you with your current 
>> location without your having to exit the Navigon app.)
>> 
>> Investigating the "Maps" app in more detail showed it is also possible to 
>> get your current location announced, but may be a little trickier.  On the 
>> main map routing page, once you've set up a route, the central map shows 
>> pins for the location of your starting and ending location, but also a pin 
>> for "Current Location".  If you flick to or touch the "Current Location" 
>> pin, VO will announce "Current Location, shows more info".  Double tap, then 
>> touch the screen above the "Current Location" pin.  I hear VO announce two 
>> lines: first, "Current Location" and then below that an approximate street 
>> location associated with the Current Location (e.g., it might be a range of 
>> street numbers, like 123-127 XXX St). Flick left and there will be a "Street 
>> View" button.  Double tapping the "Street View" button gives a Landscape 
>> street view image.  (You won't really use this, but the label at the top -- 
>> once you've rotated your iPhone 90 degrees to landscape mode -- announces 
>> the address.  In the above example it will just be the middle number in the 
>> range of addresses. This information is only given out of completeness, 
>> unless you can view the image.)   Double tap the "Done" button at the top 
>> right (in landscape mode) to return to the map screen with focus on the 
>> current location information.  If you flick right there is a "More Info" 
>> button that gives an info screen with some options that are similar to what 
>> you get from the AroundMe  "More Info" (buttons for "Directions to Here", 
>> "Directions From Here", "Add to Contacts", "Share Location", and "Add to 
>> Bookmarks").   Double tap the "Map" button in the top left to return to the 
>> map page.  Again, this information is only given for completeness, since you 
>> typically won't want to do anything except check out what this button does.
>> 
>> Note that the current location information is only viewable from map mode.  
>> If you double tap the "Settings" button in the bottom right corner so that 
>> you can change the view mode from "map" to "list" in order to get a simple 
>> turn-by-turn summary list of directions you won't be able to query current 
>> position.
>> 
>> This was actually an instance where having the default WiFi access for the 
>> iPod Touch made it a little easier to check out this feature.  If you don't 
>> use your GPS location the difference between the position of the start 
>> position pin and the "Current Position" pin is large enough so that if you 
>> move your finger around the start position on the map you'll find the second 
>> pin for "Current Position".  I'd be curious to learn whether an iPhone user 
>> can track their current position this way in the Maps app. The map view is 
>> supposed to be centered on the route steps, but I don't know how easy it is 
>> to find the current position pin in the different travel stage maps.  
>> Incidentally, the current location position guess that Google returns seems 
>> more accurate than the Navigon location in the "DirectHelp" option.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
> 
> Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I want to experiment more with this. Is it actually possible to get live 
>> updated textual directions, rather than having to advance forward? During my 
>> quick exploration of the application, it didn't seem possible, however, it 
>> probably is I'd hope. I also did not have a lot of time to try it out. I 
>> wonder if the bus route works internationally, I'd imagine so. That'd 
>> definitely help me a lot.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
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>> On Apr 8, 2010, at 10:39 PM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Karen,
>>> 
>>> You asked about getting navigating directions in the Maps app, and said 
>>> that "no directions were spoken".  The Maps app doesn't automatically 
>>> announce directions with text to speech the way GPS apps like Navigon's 
>>> MobileNavigator do, but it displays directions on the screen that you can 
>>> read off.  They're listed just below the buttons for choosing method of 
>>> travel (e.g., "directions by car", "directions by bus", "directions by 
>>> walking") at the top of the screen, at the location you heard the 2.0 miles 
>>> and 7 minutes travel time estimate, and the map of the route is shown 
>>> below.  Once you double tap the "Start" button, the header changes to let 
>>> you navigate the legs of your journey.  For example, instead of the buttons 
>>> for method of travel you might hear "1 of 8" and if you touch the screen 
>>> just below that you'll hear directions like "Head north-east on Street A 
>>> towards Avenue B".  The map below the directions update to show the portion 
>>> of the route that is described.  At the upper right of the screen, in place 
>>> of the "Start" button, there's now a "Forward" button, and to the left of 
>>> it a "Back" button.  Double tapping the "Forward" button advances you to 
>>> the next leg, so the header will read "2 of 8" and the directions below the 
>>> header might read "Drive 154 feet then turn left at C Street".  Your 
>>> husband would be able to view the map zoomed in to follow the detailed 
>>> routing at each stage, with the streets highlighted.  Using the "Forward" 
>>> and "Back" buttons let you navigate your route.  To review the series of 
>>> directions for the whole route, double tap the "Settings" button at the 
>>> bottom right, then move your finger up to the "List" button and double tap. 
>>>  This will give you a route overview, with list of directions that you read 
>>> off for each stage.  Double tapping any of the listed entries will take you 
>>> back to map view mode for that  leg of your journey, and you can use the 
>>> "Forward" and "Back" buttons.
>>> 
>>> I also found that it was easier to learn how to use this app and routing 
>>> for maps by starting from the free AroundMe app, which lets you select a a 
>>> location and then, when you double tap the "more info" button for your 
>>> selection displayed in a map, lets you send that information to Google Maps 
>>> in the correct format for finding directions when you double tap the "Show 
>>> Route" button and double tap "Maps" as the destination.  This let me 
>>> separate out the issue of how to enter addresses and starting/ending points 
>>> from using the directions, since AroundMe assumes your starting point will 
>>> be your current location.  (I'm using an iPod Touch, by the way.)
>>> 
>>> I'll also paste in the directions that Kristyn posted to the list back in 
>>> November, and cc: this post to the Macvisionaries list so I can find it 
>>> again.  Without the easy to search and link archiving that is used there, 
>>> if I can't quickly find or don't have time to type in an answer when they 
>>> show up, I'll let posts go in hopes that someone else can help.  I'd really 
>>> like for this list to be archived at the secondary Mail Archive site for 
>>> easy searching, linking, and reading down threads with access keys that 
>>> work for multiple platforms and browsers.
>>> 
>>> HTH. Pasted post is below my signature.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> From: Kristyn Leigh <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: 25 November 2009
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: maps app
>>>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> Wow! I just discovered that choosing “directions by bus” also gives train 
>>>> and light rail info.
>>>> 
>>>> I think the first time you open the app it asks to use your current 
>>>> location and it shows it on the map if you select OK.  There are 4 buttons 
>>>> at the bottom. They are start tracking, search, directions, and settings.
>>>> 
>>>> 1.       Choose “directions.”
>>>> 2.       Fill in the “start” and “end” fields. You have the option to 
>>>> select from your address book.
>>>> 3.       Double tap the “route” button in the bottom right corner if you 
>>>> did not choose a destination from your address book.
>>>> 4.       You will return to the map. There are buttons near the top for 
>>>> “directions by car,” “directions by bus,” and “directions by walking.”
>>>> 5.       If you choose “directions by bus,” it will give the departure and 
>>>> arrival times.
>>>> 6.       If you choose the “start” button, you will get the first 
>>>> direction in the turn-by-turn directions. I usually choose “list” so I can 
>>>> preview the route. The other options are “map,” “satellite,” “show 
>>>> traffic,” and “hybrid.”
>>>> 7.       If the choices listed above don’t appear on the screen, choose 
>>>> “settings” from the buttons at the bottom and you will find the view 
>>>> choices.  Sometimes it takes a few seconds to refresh the screen.
>>>> 8.       When traveling, tap the button in the lower left corner that says 
>>>> “start tracking.” After you press it, it says “start tracking with 
>>>> heading.” Sometimes I have to press that button again during a route.
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone figures out how to drop a pin to mark a location, please let me 
>>>> know.
>>>> 
>>>> Kristyn
>>> 
>>> Karen Poulakos wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I posted a question yesterday, and haven't seen a reply, so thought I'd 
>>>> try again.
>>>> 
>>>> I decided to try out the maps app which came installed on my IPhone for 
>>>> the first time, when my husband and I were driving to visit a friend.  I 
>>>> entered our address as the starting point, and our friend's address as the 
>>>> destination.  I then tapped the button for getting directions.  I then 
>>>> read the screen to find that our destination was 2.0 miles, and 
>>>> approximately 7 minutes in traffic.  There were no textual directions that 
>>>> I could find.  My husband said that there was a map on the screen.
>>>> 
>>>> I then found a start button and tapped that, but still no directions were 
>>>> spoken.
>>>> 
>>>> I thought I had read on this list that some of you had been successful in 
>>>> using this app.  Would someone be willing to share a few tips for making 
>>>> it work?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Karen P
>>> 
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