>From a completely VO prospective, I don’t find much change in things like web 
>pages and apps in general. That is unfortunate they are ot working in Braille, 
>but that has always been buggy with the mac.

> On Mar 14, 2023, at 14:13, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Its not only apps that has gone worse.
> Webpages has been harder to use to.
> I have to just take things quite slow now a days to understand how a page 
> works.
> Especially with braille.
> And Ventura is absolutely not very good when using braille.
> /A
> 
>> 14 mars 2023 kl. 00:01 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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>> 
>> I sadly echo your sentiment.  I’m trying to communicate with developers but 
>> I find that i spend most of my time managing technology, which in the end 
>> makes me so sick.
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>>> On 13 Mar 2023, at 22:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Andrew,
>>>  I hear you. Its frustrating.But I am finding that more and more apps are 
>>> becoming less easy to use. Same with macOS which was simpler before 
>>> Ventura. The UI interface is changing and that may be why. I need to sit 
>>> down and focus on some apps like 1Passwird and take notes then send as 
>>> feedback. Sometimes I yearn for the "good ol' days" when life was simpler. 
>>> :)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>> 
>>> On 3/13/2023 3:00 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> Hi E.T.
>>>> Yes, I have sent them feedback, waiting for their response.  whilst I used 
>>>> to love it, I’m beginning to worry they’re neglecting the accessibility 
>>>> due to the usual competition pressure & the need to see themselves 
>>>> implementing new features that actually put us visually impaired ppl at a 
>>>> disadvantage.  I’ve been very patient I feel but recently I seem to be 
>>>> spending hours trying to achieve what a sighted person could achieve in 
>>>> seconds.  This is just not good enough.
>>>> Andrew
>>>>> On 13 Mar 2023, at 00:28, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   I don't disagree but I think the 1Password app provides many benefits 
>>>>> aside from storing passwords. Send them feedback.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>>>> My e-Mail:
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com><mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/12/2023 2:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people find 
>>>>>> easily accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been using 
>>>>>> 1password for many years but following their continuous development - as 
>>>>>> is often the case - I’m finding their app more and more difficult to use.
>>>>>> Andrew
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