morning, I think that to categorize the Brailliant is a display that is issues I don't think is quite completely true. I'm using a brilliant PI 40 X right now. I think the real issue is knowing when you should connected up to a machine and when it is appropriate to leave it set up were Bluetooth only. Very situation specific. What do I mean by that if your just checking mail and if you're just working on a few things and you're in a location where you don't want that expensive cable that you just spent loads of money buying than Bluetooth is probably your best friend. If you are on the other hand needing to move documents to and from the unit, and you might seriously consider that you have the unit connected via a cable. Since transferring files between the units probably should not be done under Bluetooth. This is true whether you are using Bluetooth under Mac OS, or Bluetooth under Microsoft Windows. Here's hoping that this message finds you, and everyone on the list well.

Here's also hoping that my thoughts got out properly I'm actually dictating this to the computer because of a additional disability and I'm using a virtual machine on a Mac but running in a virtual version of Microsoft Windows 11 be well everyone.



On 23/04/26 15:30, Jessica Moss wrote:
I would think if their primary market was school systems, that it would be 
absolutely necessary, since in a setting like that, it would be more prone to 
being dropped, and considering the fact that it costs a lot to manufacture 
them, dropping one is the last thing anyone would want to be doing.

On Apr 26, 2023, at 9:37 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

When I travel with the Mantis, I just put it in the case with my Mac.  Because 
it is so thin, it fits very nicely.  But I do agree, a case would have been a 
good thing.  Though I think APH was trying to keep the price down, and also 
that their primary market was school systems, so perhaps they thought it 
wouldn’t be necessary.
Donna
Donna

On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:18 AM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote:

braille display prices still drive me nuts. Got the mantis here and
was surprised the thing didn't come with the leather case you can
close. The brailliant bi 40x is also pretty nice, but it seems to have
issues with the bluetooth staying connected sometimes.

On 4/26/23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Andrew,

One comment about the mantis.  I bought one expecting it would be my only
braille display, and ended up buying another one.  I found that the
placement of the thumb keys on the Mantis causes my hands to cramp.  I
couldn’t read on it for more than about five minutes before my hands started
to hurt.  So I bought a Brailliant.  The Brailliant is now the display I use
for reading, and the Mantis is what I use when I want a qwerty keyboard for
writing.  Both are good displays, but I would encourage you to find one that
is comfortable for your hands, if you do much braille reading.  When I
purchased it, the Brailliant was $3,495.
Best,
Donna

On Apr 26, 2023, at 6:32 AM, Joe Hodge <josephlho...@gmail.com> wrote:

The Orbit 20 or 40 are priced afordibley. I think the 20 is around 600 and
the 40 is at 1600. I think there good displays. They do make a little
noise but for where I use braille mainly at home the Orbit does the job
pretty well. Aph has the Mantis which I use almost every day which is a
qwerty keyboard 40 cell option but is 2895 dollars at this time.

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From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
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Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 02:13 AM
To: "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover

Hi,
My Brailliant bi 32 I bought second-hand years ago appears to have died.
Would you mind giving me some recommendations on an affordable Braille
display that plays nicely with voiceover?
Many thanks
Andrew
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