Hi, I am also interested in running Windows on a silicon based Mac. I have always run Bootcamp for this on Intel, wish Apple would make this available again at some point in the future. I have tried Parallels on someone’s MacBook Air M2 with 8 core cpu, 8gb ram and 512gb ssd. As I understand it, Parallels is the best option at the moment and is Microsoft supporting ARM-based Windows 11 officially now. Parallels downloads the Windows for you. It is not accessible unfortunately, as many already stated here. But when installed it is possible to start and stop the virtual Windows machine with Voice Over. The pricing of Parallels is a bit high by the way. I installed the latest ARM-version of Jaws 2023 and it ran pretty well without any stutter or weird issues. The apps which I ran in the short time with it, did fine. My worries are, before I buy a MacBook Pro and installing Windows via Parallels, is the compatibility of certain apps I must run on Windows. I have learned not all Windows apps will run on ARM-hardware, even not through Rosetta 2. Plus I still keep wondering how much speed-loss you experience while running Windows in such virtual machine? There must be some performance drop because its a operating system running in a program on an other operating system. And no, I rather not buy a seperate Windows pc for this;) Ronald
> Op 27 apr. 2023, om 16:06 heeft mattias jonsson <[email protected]> het > volgende geschreven: > > try this link for parallels desktop appstore edition > <förhandsvisa.png> > Parallels Desktop > google.com > > <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjClobcnMr-AhUGpIsKHTBtAG0QFnoECBMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fse%2Fapp%2Fparallels-desktop%2Fid1085114709%3Fmt%3D12&usg=AOvVaw3QESmYdSasYkNU7QXSbsxe>Parallels > Desktop > <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjClobcnMr-AhUGpIsKHTBtAG0QFnoECBMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fse%2Fapp%2Fparallels-desktop%2Fid1085114709%3Fmt%3D12&usg=AOvVaw3QESmYdSasYkNU7QXSbsxe> > google.com > <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjClobcnMr-AhUGpIsKHTBtAG0QFnoECBMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fse%2Fapp%2Fparallels-desktop%2Fid1085114709%3Fmt%3D12&usg=AOvVaw3QESmYdSasYkNU7QXSbsxe> > > https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjClobcnMr-AhUGpIsKHTBtAG0QFnoECBMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fse%2Fapp%2Fparallels-desktop%2Fid1085114709%3Fmt%3D12&usg=AOvVaw3QESmYdSasYkNU7QXSbsxe > > <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjClobcnMr-AhUGpIsKHTBtAG0QFnoECBMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fse%2Fapp%2Fparallels-desktop%2Fid1085114709%3Fmt%3D12&usg=AOvVaw3QESmYdSasYkNU7QXSbsxe> > >> 27 apr. 2023 kl. 15:34 skrev Michael Babcock <[email protected]>: >> >> Hi >> It is not! >> >> Hear are 2 resources that may help: >> >> VOCR: https://github.com/chigkim/VOCR >> Downloads – Install Parallels >> Desktop,https://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/download/ >> Using Parallels for Mac (2022) >> https://www.applevis.com/forum/macos-mac-apps/using-parallels-mac-2022 >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> >>> On Apr 27, 2023, at 5:35 AM, lenron brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Ok will try Parallels is this on the app store? >>> >>> On 4/26/23, Joe Hodge <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> UTM worked for me but it was a bit tricky installing. Paralells was much >>>> easier using VOCR. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: mattias jonsson <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 11:18 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Running Windows on Apple Silicon MBP >>>> >>>> dont use utm >>>> utm dont support tpm etc >>>>> 27 apr. 2023 kl. 02:30 skrev Herbie Allen <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>> I just saw a post from someone about an option called UTM. I understand >>>>> they have made some recent changes to improve accessibility. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 19:22, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Last I checked, Parallels was not accessible with Voiceover, in order to >>>>>> run Windows on an Apple Silicon Mac, you need to sign up for the >>>>>> Microsoft insider program and download Windows for ARM processors which >>>>>> has not been officially released. If you need to use Windows you would be >>>>>> better off just getting a PC. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:13 AM, Jessica Moss <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To my knowledge, parallels is the only way to do this. However, I've >>>>>>> never attempted to do this, so I'm not sure as to how accessible running >>>>>>> parallels is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Mohamed Fayed <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hope my mail finds you well, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What is the recommended method for running windows 10 or 11 on Apple >>>>>>>> Silicon with Mac OS 13? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I may run either windows 10 or 11. What would be the best option? Or >>>>>>>> actually what are the available options in this regards? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How software looks like ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you so much, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mohamed E. 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