This was happening regardless of which mailbox I had selected.  I had to do 
some playing around with mailbox behaviors, something I’ve never attempted to 
do anything with, and eventually found that my option to have my deleted 
messages moved to option somehow ended up being switched to “none.”  So after 
switching it back to “gmail/trash,” everything is now working again.  I’m just 
really baffled as to how this happened, since I don’t play with those settings, 
any more than I would on my Amazon fire tv, but now one of ours is deciding 
even after I turn Voiceview off, to turn it back on all by itself, and 
sometimes will do this repeatedly, so I’ve stopped trying to figure out why 
this is.

> On Jul 6, 2023, at 9:52 PM, Jonathan Cohn <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 1. What  mailbox do you have selected.
> 2. If you type command-shift-F (Mailbox search) is there anything in that 
> text entry field (if so clear it out)
> 3. Look for items about filter in the view menu of your mail applicaiton. I 
> believe command-option-L toggles filters on and off, but I might be off in 
> what the second modifier key is.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 9:32 PM Jessica Moss <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Ok, so after doing a lot of digging, and having to do a lot of exploring 
>> with mailbox behaviors, which I’m not familiar with, I found out my setting 
>> to move deleted messages to trash folder somehow got switched to “none” 
>> which makes no sense.  So after switching it back to gmail/trash, things 
>> seem to finally be fixed.
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Herbie Allen <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did you do anything in the Mail account settings?
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 14:47, Jessica Moss <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This happens regardless of whether I restart mail or not.  Also, How do I 
>>>> check to see if I have messages marked as deleted or not?
>>>>   I wouldn’t think anything has changed, since I honestly don’t know how 
>>>> to/have any desire to change how messages behave for this vary reason, so 
>>>> I’m really stumped on how this happened.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 3:29 PM, matthew dyer <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Whzat happens if you restart the mail app.  Also, do you have mail set to 
>>>>> mark messages as deleted?  This is very strange.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 3:18 PM, 'Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OH wow, that’s weird, Jess.  Have never had anything like that happen in 
>>>>>> mail where you can’t delete all messages, and having messages come back 
>>>>>> that you delete.  That’s interesting.  
>>>>>> Dan Eickmeier. Beamsville, Ontario Canada.  Amateur radio callsign: 
>>>>>> VA3ETS
>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/va3ets Mastodon: @[email protected] 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 10:56 AM, Jessica Moss <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Honestly, I have no idea, I just no that at this point, something has 
>>>>>>> somehow happened where all my deleted messages are now coming back as 
>>>>>>> soon as I delete them, and command+shift+delete no longer erases 
>>>>>>> everything like it used to on either of my mailboxes.  This just 
>>>>>>> randomly happened yesterday, without me having done anything to my 
>>>>>>> settings, so have no idea what needs to be fixed, let alone what could 
>>>>>>> have caused it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are you perhaps, confusing filters and searches? If you do a search 
>>>>>>>> within all mail that it will look at every folder, including your 
>>>>>>>> deleted folder in some cases.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 9:03 AM, Jessica Moss <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I just noticed yesterday, and have no idea what brought this on, 
>>>>>>>>> that when I launched my Apple mail, everything in my personal mailbox 
>>>>>>>>> looked like it it had completely been erased.  However, everything 
>>>>>>>>> within my work e-mailbox, which is also gmail-based, was still in 
>>>>>>>>> tact.
>>>>>>>>> Then next thing I knew, Voiceover kept saying something about 
>>>>>>>>> filters, upon mail being launched, which I never mess with, but 
>>>>>>>>> figured I’d attempt to do so to see if I could recover them.  So 
>>>>>>>>> after doing some playing around to see what would take, I somehow 
>>>>>>>>> managed to get my mail back, but now on both sides, my erase-all 
>>>>>>>>> command is now no longer working, and my messages are reappearing as 
>>>>>>>>> fast as I delete them.  Does anyone know what I could’ve accidentally 
>>>>>>>>> toggled on that I need to fix?
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