Well, since we are talking about windows here, let me see if I can sneak in a completely off-topic question. I don’t want to go with virtualization. These days it’s probably inexpensive enough just to buy a cheap laptop or some kind of windows machine. Here’s the question, can anybody recommend something inexpensive And functional running windows, it’s not gonna be a power machine for me really just a novelty so I can play around with windows and windows apps. Any suggestions welcome. Thank you Sent from my IPhone
> On Dec 30, 2023, at 1:41 PM, Maurice A. Mines <kd0iko2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi it. Comes down to personal chose. The. Real reason that Microsoft went > with Parallels, is the two companies offices are. Vary close to etch > other. I know that this a vary small thing. But is is true. Both are in > a subvert of. Seattle Washington. > > All of that aside, it. Comes down to personal chose. > > For me Parallels is. Working out for me . I hold to something like this > if it is not broken don’t go and fix it. > > Maurice Mines. > >> On Dec 30, 2023, at 18:26, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net> wrote: >> >> This is a shame, as this is the official solution Microsoft recommends. I >> think the accessibility is one of those things Microsoft overlooked in >> coming to this, as there are trade-offs and benefits of whichever way one >> would go to do this kind of thing. On YouTube and other places, many in the >> sighted community see Parallels to be superior to Fusion, but if that is >> only for the more OSX feel to running Windows only, the looks don't matter >> for many of us that can't see it. Maybe it really does bench and perform >> better in the real world, especially with the graphics card, which could >> affect us if we want to game on it or as Windows adds more AI features that >> want to use those capabilities for processing it. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On >> Behalf Of Mike Arrigo >> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2023 10:10 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Using Parallels >> >> If you purchase an Apple silicon Mac, you can use Parallels with the version >> of Windows for ARM processors, the company has been contacted by several >> voiceover users about the lack of accessibility and it appears that the >> company has no plans to address it. >> >>>> On Dec 29, 2023, at 10:48 AM, 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> to set it up, I have to use VOCR to read the screen. >>> My VO key is caps lock key. >>> it’s like the VM doesn’t see the key. >>> >>>> On Dec 29, 2023, at 11:44 AM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Are you saying that parallels is now accessible at least to some >>>> degree? I thought it was a complete black box for Mac voiceover users >>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 29, 2023, at 11:14 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> As strange as it seems, telling VoiceOver to use the CAPSLOCK key and >>>>> keeping VoiceOver running while in Windows might resolve this issue. It >>>>> did for me with VMWare 3 years ago. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 11:02 AM 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi folks. >>>>> I still have and intel mac and wanted to get a new one in the new year. >>>>> I’ve been playing with Parallels, and so far I like it. >>>>> I just can’t seem to get the Caps lock key to work with Jaws or NVDA. >>>>> Does Anyone have any idea? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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