My theory is this: The more Mac users, the better. It will drive the other
guys to come up with the same thing for their system, where you could walk
up to a Windows PC, and press a button, and it starts talking. Narrator
doesn't count. LOL

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Ricardo I am delighted to hear that's the case, however here I can't see
> it happening for quite some time.  Only the "techie" people are using
> iPhones, and even then it's happening by word-of-mouth.  Blind people using
> the Mac is almost unheard of over here.
>
> Bring on the revolution! <smile>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ricardo Walker
> *Sent:* 15 April 2010 11:02
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: new member
>
> Hi Donald,
>
> I disagree.  I think economics will come in to play in the next 3 to 5
> years.  The cost of getting a Mac will justify it being looked into as a
> viable option for agencies.  There are more blind Mac users every day.  I
> live in New York City and got my first experience to a Mac at a course in
> intro to the Mac and voiceover as well as garageband I took in the summer of
> 2008 at the Lighthouse.  I assume such courses will catch on in the future.
>
>  On Apr 15, 2010, at 5:54 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
>  I'd very much doubt it Rob.  I don't know what it's like in other
> countries, but here in Ireland most of the trainers are actually sighted.
> Macs haven't penetrated the mainstream userbase to the same extent as
> windows-based Pcs.  Consequently the level of knowledge among the trainers
> on the actual OS itself (not including VO) is virtually non existent.  The
> fact that the trainers would have to go and learn an entirely new platform,
> and then educate themselves in a new style of assistive technology makes it
> pretty certain that the majority of blind users will be stuck with Jaws and
> other badly implemented screenreaders for the foreseeable future.
>
> It's sad, but in my opinion true that this is the case.
>
> Dónal
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rob Lambert
> *Sent:* 15 April 2010 10:47
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: new member
>
> Who here thinks we'll see the Mac replacing PCs in AT training offices?
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Joe Plummer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> For other A T you can run boot camp or virtual windows to use them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sign,
>> Joe Plummer ( JP )
>> [email protected]
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:46 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: new member
>>
>> Hello Denise,
>>
>> I hope the word processor you are thinking of getting is iWork09, since MS
>> Office for Mac is not accessible.
>>
>> As for Word documents of almost any level, TextEdit or Pages will read
>> these
>> just fine.
>>
>> I can't answer any of your other questions having never been a Windows
>> user.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Anne
>>
>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:27 PM, denise avant wrote:
>>
>> > hello,
>> > after having my iphone for six months now, i have really enjoyed my
>> experience with apple. To that end, i am looking into purchasing a mac
>> book
>> pro. In fact, i called for some specs today and have set one with 4 gig of
>> ram, and a 320 hard drive, 13 in screen. again this is just a possiblity.
>> > i will also have the word processor included. i will also have the
>> one-to-one training as there is a nearby apple store in chicago.
>> > i am curious as to what those of you who own macs have done about your
>> other windows based adatpive equipment, duxbury, openbook or k1000 and hw
>> stream companion? how easy is it to move ms word 2003 2007 docs over to
>> apple macs, still keep the formatting or move them back again?
>> > I thought of just keeping my netbook or sony  machine for these
>> purposes.
>> there was also the idea given to me that i could have windows on one side
>> and the mac on the other side. any thoughts on these questions would be
>> apprciated.
>> >
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