Hello Janina,
Good. That’s done, and I was able to delete the reference to X64 in my VMWare
settings.
Now for the real question: Do I simply purchase a windows license on Microsoft
or Amazon, and apply it to the W11 ARM that I am running? I think the price for
the license is US$199, so I don’t want to take this step without advice.
Dave Carlson
Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer
On Nov 22, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Janina Sajka <jan...@rednote.net> wrote:
Yes, I think you got it done.
Be sure to check for any hidden files in that folder, though. Off the
top of my head I'm not recalling whether there's a hidden file to worry
about, but it's a common enough software strategy to guard against
things like accidental deletions.
Dave Carlson writes:
> Okay, I found Davecarlson/Virtual Machines and deleted the x64 version. Does
> that sound correct?
>
>
> Dave Carlson
> Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer
>
> On Nov 22, 2024, at 2:50???AM, Janina Sajka <jan...@rednote.net> wrote:
>
> Dave Carlson writes:
>> ...
>> Here???s my question: How do I remove the incorrect version of Windows from
>> VMWare?
>>
>
> There's a folder:
>
> $HOME/Virtual Machines.localized/
>
> All your virtual machines are just files in that folder, and can be deleted
> in any of the usual ways.
>
> Best,
> Janina
>
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer
>>
>> On Nov 18, 2024, at 5:35???AM, mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries
>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> This can be done without sighted assistance.
>> First, did you create a new virtual machine and choose windows.
>> before starting the new virtual machine, you need to modify some settings,
>> such as how much ram and hard drive you want.
>> I am on my way out right now, I???ll have to get you more info later.
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 16, 2024, at 5:23 AM, Frank Ventura
>>> <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Honestly, I have never been able to create the virtual machine myself. What
>>> I try is to point the virtual CD drive to the Windows .ISO file that I
>>> downloaded from Microsoft. I then select the CD drive as the startup device
>>> and start the virtual machine. About a minute later I get a dialog that no
>>> operating system was found. Eventually I may be able to get some eyeballs
>>> on the situation to se what obvious step I am missing.
>>> Frank Ventura
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 13, 2024, at 5:47???AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dave Carlson writes:
>>>>> ...
>>>>> Can VMWare be installed without sighted asistance, using only Voiceover?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, this part has alwaysbeen easy for me. I've now installed VMware on a
>>>> succession of Mac machines over the years. This step was never a problem
>>>> in my experience.
>>>>
>>>>> And can it be operated with Voiceover after installation and installing
>>>>> Windows?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah, you need to break this into steps, because here's where the problems
>>>> lie--again in my experience.
>>>>
>>>> 1.) Can you install the guest OS without sighted assistance? Maybe.
>>>> I've never found this easy though I have been successful. It's a major
>>>> time savings to get assistance with this part.
>>>>
>>>> 2.) Can you run the guest OS? Sure, that's why you would bother
>>>> with this installation and configuration process, right? If this answer
>>>> were no, we wouldn't even be talking about VMware, imo. But, there is a
>>>> hidden trap. Getting VMware to focus the guest OS rather than VMware
>>>> chrome is not trivial. To do this I'm currently:
>>>>
>>>> a.) Turning off VO with Command+F5
>>>> b.) Putting my VMware into full screen mode with Ctrl+Cmd+f
>>>> c.) Turning VO back on
>>>>
>>>>> And when do I need to get JAWS installed on the VM machine to assist?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have no personal experience of JAWS in the past couple decades.
>>>> However, consider that the IP protection in JAWS involves writing your key
>>>> into protected space in the file system, right? That's still part of JAWS?
>>>> If so, this would pose a challenge almost certainly.
>>>>
>>>> hth
>>>>
>>>> Janina
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>>> Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 12, 2024, at 4:37???AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly. I'm running Debian in VMware on my M2 Macbook Pro.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anders Holmberg writes:
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> Yes of corse.
>>>>>> I didnt know that you could run mare on the silicon Macs.
>>>>>> If you can then I suppose you could run Debian virtually.
>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 8 nov. 2024 kl. 16:26 skrev 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My understanding is that a dual boot configuration with Asahi Linux and
>>>>>>> MacOS is an option, but of course you would need to reboot to switch
>>>>>>> operating systems, and I don't know how accessible the procedure is for
>>>>>>> selecting the system to load during boot.
>>>>>>> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 10:18
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Using virtualization software on my 2019 Mac Pro
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I'm running VMware on a M2 Macbook Pro.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't want Asahi Linux unless you no longer want MacOS. Asahi is for
>>>>>>> turning your Mac into a Linux box, it's not for use in a vm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anders Holmberg writes:
>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>> But you use the Intel Mac I guess?
>>>>>>>> I don???t want to use the parallels as its not very very accessible to
>>>>>>>> set up.
>>>>>>>> I wonder if qemu is doable on an m1 Mac?
>>>>>>>> Otherwise I have to. Play around with Ashanti linux.
>>>>>>>> Bless.
>>>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 31 okt. 2024 kl. 10:17 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Two answers about how accessible ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1.) I had several failed attempts at installing a client Linux.
>>>>>>>>> Debian did work. Once I got into the Debian installer, I came close to
>>>>>>>>> getting a functioning installation, but not quite. Eventually I broke
>>>>>>>>> down and granted remote access to a sighted colleague for help with
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> installation. I do now have a function Debian that I can update in the
>>>>>>>>> usual way Linux is updated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2.) Operational everything is fine once I trick my Mac into giving
>>>>>>>>> focus to the client OS. Currently, this seems to require temporarily
>>>>>>>>> turning off Voice Over. The Mac seems to want to stay focussed on
>>>>>>>>> VMware
>>>>>>>>> chrome even when the VM is full screen. However, once I get focus set
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the guest/client OS, it just works and continues even after I alt-TAB
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> other apps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Frank Ventura writes:
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, how accessible do you find VMWare Fusion? Also where can I
>>>>>>>>>> buy it? Is it in the Mac App Store? Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Frank Ventura
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2024, at 6:02???AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am running VMware on my M2 Macbook. I have Debian with the
>>>>>>>>>>> Speakup
>>>>>>>>>>> screen reader in a virtual machine. It's been very stable. I have
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> attempted to run Orca with a graphical Linux environment of any
>>>>>>>>>>> kind.
>>>>>>>>>>> The Linux CLI is exactly why I wanted this vm on my Mac.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alt tabbing into the virtual machine is a bit tricky, but
>>>>>>>>>>> manageable. I
>>>>>>>>>>> doubt you'll find any tutorials, though. I could be wrong, of
>>>>>>>>>>> course.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would not recommend a virtual machine as the vector for learning
>>>>>>>>>>> another operating system. Instead, I'd suggest using an older
>>>>>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>>>>>> that you might still have, or could acquire very affordably. Also,
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge necessary to successfully install Linux is different from
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> you knowledge you need to use it with a screen reader. I suspect
>>>>>>>>>>> self
>>>>>>>>>>> installation trips up many people who share your goal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Frank Ventura writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, I would like to experiment with running a few virtual
>>>>>>>>>>>> machines on my Mac to familiarize myself with other operating
>>>>>>>>>>>> systems such as Linux and Chrome OS Flex. The Mac I am going to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> using for this is the 2019 edition of the Mac Pro desktop. Does
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone know what virtualization software for the Mac is currently
>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible? Also are there any tutorials or videos on how to do
>>>>>>>>>>>> this?Also is better to create a dual boot system? If so are there
>>>>>>>>>>>> tutorials for that as well?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank Ventura
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