Re: More Tahoe woes, this time in Mail

[Brad Snyder]

No no no, never have the mouse pointer follow the voiceover cursor. It creates all kinds of problems. Avoid it like the plague. - Brad - On Mar 31, 2026, at 11:54, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: Hi Herby, It does have a picture at the top, but it always does, and that has never been an issue before. I do have the mouse pointer set to ignore the VO cursor.  That has always worked well in the past.  Are you suggesting that should be changed? TIA, Donna On Mar 31, 2026, at 11:28 AM, Herbie Allen <herbie.al...@gmail.com> wrote: I don’t think this email issue is common and probably has to do with the formatting of the news letter. One thing that could be a factor is People’s VO Settings. It matters for instance if you have the Mouse Pointer set to ignore the VO Cursor rather than follow it. The latest Zoom is a classic example where no matter the Mac OS, how it displays is going to be very different. In the case of the News letter, does it have pictures and what not, that could be a factor where someone who gets news letters that don’t contain that or as much could have a different experience. Also, wasn’t the conversation about coding a while back? We’ve had several updates including the latest last week. On Mar 31, 2026, at 11:16, Krishnakant Mane <kkmane...@gmail.com> wrote: I was planning to upgrade tonight and had almost made up my mind. But I guess I will put it off for now at least. Also got a critical security update so I am covered any ways. I totally rely on apple mail because I don’t read emails directly in  Chrome.  So this is a show stopper for me.  I don’t know if it will happen with me, but if it does then I am badly stuck. One thing I am really curious about. Mac OS is very strictly centrally controlled yet different people with same machine type and same OS version get different experiences. I mean, this is not like an open source system like Linux where there are different distributions or flavours of the OS and every brand has something different. This is a centrally managed Os and also made for that one specific hardware. Yet how people get different experiences is something beyond my logical comprehension. For example this current problem of email, I see some people reporting and confirming the behaviour and also the fact that it did not happen before. And some people are absolutely fine with it. Today I got a chance to check VSCode (the Microsoft programming tool ) On Tahoe at one of my friend’s place.  And it worked well, contrary to the response I had received on this very mailing list.  Again the experience differed and so I was about to update because I did not see any problem with Safari or Chrome. But now reading about this potential email issue I am putting off upgrading for now. Regards. On 31 Mar 2026, at 8:40 PM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: Friends I've tried VO on my nephew's air. It didn't do all the VO freazing up stuff but I ddid see the getting stuck in a tool bar thing. So this mail set of issues could also be an OS and VO issue. Can whom ever posted that system diognoses command write me off list with it to save all those instructions please? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Greg Wocher <gtwoc...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2026 10:09 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: More Tahoe woes, this time in Mail   Hello, I have seen this a few times myself. Usually if you just turn VO off and on again, the email should read as normal. Greg Wocher > On Mar 31, 2026, at 10:06 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >  > Hi all, >  > Well, the Tahoe issues seem to continue. I have an email that I cannot read. It’s an email newsletter that I have received for years.  I’ve never had issues with mail from this person before. >  > If I just press enter on the message, VO will read it aloud.  But I cannot scroll through the message with the arrow keys.  It doesn’t matter whether Quicknav is on or off.  If I have VO read the newsletter, and pause it in. 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