Hi,

If the cult key does not work, try using windows F5 as if you use a windows 
keyboard then the cmd and option keys are reversed.

Matthew



> On Jun 16, 2026, at 7:18 AM, Brennen Kinch <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Gotcha that makes sense. The only reason I said it like that is because I 
> felt like I needed to make the point that I can’t access the system settings 
> yet until I get voiceover turned on because at the moment there is no speech.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2026, at 11:29 PM, Dave Carlson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m totally blind, too. As I said if you’re using a different keyboard 
>> command, if the alt key to be specific, the alt key is the little button 
>> just to the left of your space. Hold that down and reach up and press the F5 
>> key near the top of the keyboard. That is how you turn on voiceover.
>> Dave Carlson
>> Woodworker, Farfar, Oregonian, pioneer, engineer, and Musician
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 15, 2026, at 4:56 PM, Brennen Kinch <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I need to get voiceover turned on first before I can go to the settings. I 
>> am completely blind and I have a Mac mini with no monitor.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2026, at 7:54 PM, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes command F5 for VO.
>>> 
>>> But for instance my neice's boyfriend's 2012 Imack doesn't respect that too 
>>> much because he is using a windows keyboard too.
>>> 
>>> But yes and if it works like Dave said alt F5 basically.
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on 
>>> behalf of Brennen Kinch <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2026 7:48 PM
>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Mac questions
>>>  
>>> I do not have access to system settings on the Mac. Is the command for 
>>> turning on voiceover command f5. Also, do we know what the command is for 
>>> accessing Siri on the Mac?
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> > On Jun 15, 2026, at 6:52 PM, Dave Carlson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > Just go to system settings under keyboard, and go to the keyboard set 
>>> > up. Then you can have it recognize that other keyboard. If you don’t 
>>> > change anything, the alt key is command the Windows key is option. The 
>>> > control key is the same.
>>> > Dave Carlson
>>> > Woodworker, Farfar, Oregonian, pioneer, engineer, and Musician
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > On Jun 15, 2026, at 12:59 PM, Brennen Kinch <[email protected]> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > Hi guys, how is everyone doing? I hope you guys are doing well. I just 
>>> > had a quick question a couple of quick questions. Actually I just got a 
>>> > Mac computer and I was wondering is there a shortcut with a keyboard 
>>> > that’s not the Apple magic keyboard that will allow you to turn on and 
>>> > off voiceover I had the Apple magic keyboard, but I didn’t like it and so 
>>> > I returned it and I have just a regular keyboard that should work with my 
>>> > Mac, but I don’t know and didn’t know if there was a shortcut on just a 
>>> > regular keyboard that also works with Mac that would allow you to toggle 
>>> > on and off voiceover or if there’s a shortcut to activate Siri on the Mac 
>>> > also, does anyone know the command for closing out windows when you’re 
>>> > done with them similar to the F4 command in windows
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
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