And that's something I find myself doing all the time. 
 I keep trying to use the number pad as kersor keys and trying to control
the kersor within both documents and websites. 
But hay no, it doesn't work that way.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Sunday, 2 May 2010 9:29 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New to mac

Nic I think the one thing we need to enforce here is do not bring your
windows and windows-based screen reading concepts to the Mac. If you try to
think of the Mac in windows terms or how things work with a windows screen
reader, you will find the transition to be difficult.
There are significant differences between windows and the Mac in terms of
accessibility. You can browse the web in what is referred too as DOM mode,
which is as close to a windows screen reader experience, but then there is
groups mode, which presents the web experience, more as a sighted person
would use it or as close as is possible.
IWorks is a great package and although not perfect yet, Apple continues to
improve it. I think it will be more accessible than Open Office in the end.
YOu of course have the option of running VmWare's Fusion and using WIndows
if necessary. My point of all this is to keep an open mind, be prepared for
a learning curve, and be patient. Also make sure you do some reading and
familiarize yourself with the OS and VoiceOver if you have not done so.
COnsider this one of the most exciting adventures you have undertaken and
you will be pleased. Yes, frustration will find you from time to time, but
stay the course and you to can be a switcher. :)

On May 1, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I personally prefer iWorks myself, but that is really only because in Open
Office, each line is shown as another edit field. I still believe that is
the case.
> 
> As for web browsing, you can jump to certain blocks of text. With the
introduction of Web spots in Mac OS X 10.6, it can sort the page so that
with one command, you can jump to the areas of the page that may be of most
interest to you. Of course, you can also go by elements.
> 
> I really have not found any part of Mac OS inaccessible. There might be
the occasional glitch, but those are quickly fixed or there is an easy
workaround.
> Regards,
> Nic
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> On May 2, 2010, at 3:06 AM, Edward wrote:
> 
>> Hello 
>> Which one, open office, or iworks, do you recommend?
>> Also you wrote: 
>> Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say
about
>> it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load
the
>> page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has
loaded.
>> I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)
>> Please rant, I  would like to have as much info as possible.  Is all of
the
>> mac OS accessible?
>> 
>> Finally, can you easily navigate to a body of text on a webpage with few
>> keystrokes?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Edward
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen
>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 8:45 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New to mac
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully
accessible
>> yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most likely making
it
>> accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called Text Edit, which is a
lot
>> better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. You have suites such as iWork
>> and Open Office, which will probably perform the tasks you want.
>> 
>> Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say
about
>> it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load
the
>> page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has
loaded.
>> I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
>> Skype: Kvalme
>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>> AIM: cincinster
>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>> Facebook Profile
>> My Twitter
>> 
>> On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and would 
>>> like to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms of ms 
>>> office and web browsing?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for answering my nubie questions Edward
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