It won't make me angry if we can work efficiently without them. They cause
all sorts of problems with dynamic content!



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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: VoiceOver 4.0

Hi,
Normally i don't comment on these threads, because i'm so very afraid that
too many user requests will turn an excelent screen reader into bloatware as
the case is with Jaws, which unfortunately has become the defacto for what
we blind users want, but there are actually a couple things i'd love to see:
The remembering of hot spots: preferably on a per application basis. This
would be helpful in situations where we have to set hot spots to quickly
come back to a place where we once were.
And i definitely agree with the suggestion about a new voice, only i want to
go a bit further: skip all the ploy voices like bubbles, bells, trinoids,
zarvox, hysterical and all the other nonsence and give us international
users voices in our own languages such as Swedish, then we even here could
enjoy the total freedom of going up to a mac in an apple store and using it
as anyone else.
And one thing i don't want to see, and this will probably make most blinks
angry: no virtual buffers whatsoever!
/Krister
27 jun 2010 kl. 07.09 skrev Pete Nalda:

> 1. Language rotor, so I can hear Spanish, French, and Basque spoken like
they should be.  Alex and Vicki just don't do it for me, it sounds so
sterile.
> 2. Automatic interaction with the text area in Mail.  I wonder if another
key should be used for stopping speech, as I don't get to use control+2
finger flick to change magnification when VO is running with the trackpad
commander.
> 
> On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we
should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS.  10.7 (lion maybe?). 
>> 
>> so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented
into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening.
>> 
>> i will get the ball rolling ...
>> 
>> 1.   Intelligent number reading.  if voiceover encounters numbers then it
can only be set to read them as words or numbers.  It would be neat if
VoiceOver knew when it was more appropriate to say the numbers as digits or
words.  For example if the word year appeared after 26 (digits) voiceover
knew in this instance to read two six as twenty six years.  Another example
would be a phone number, if the word tel: or mobile: etc appears before
numbers beginning with either + or 0 then to read this out as digits and not
some huge number containing millions and thousands.  The same could be said
for time and measurements etc.
>> 
>> 2.   In mail it would be more useful if voiceover did not read blank
blank on every line on the message viewer if there was nothing in that cell.
yes I know you can turn buddies off and move columns around etc to get
around this, but really voiceover should only read out what is relevant
unless the user wishes to interact with the item in more detail. I think it
would also be useful to know if the email has an attachment before opening
it.
>> 
>> 3.   An additional voice.  Alex is wonderful and plays great fast and
slow, the other voices that come with the mac have been there since the year
dot and probably sounded impressive in the 80s or 90s but now I wonder why
they are still there.  I would like to see an additional voice added to
complement Alex, maybe a female voice.  This would be useful for reading
events as some of us have to purchase an additional voice for this task.
>> 
>> 4.   Portable document image , when using adium or the weather widget I
get infuriated when I hear the graphic image read out as portable document
image.  Why can't voiceover simply say oh its a picture of the sun or a
cloud or its a smiley or sad face etc.
>> 
>> 5.   The ability to change the speech rate etc within iChat for when you
have events set up so new messages or buddies online are read out., as
currently the default is very slow and there is no way to speed them up.
>> 
>> 6.   The ability to remember hotspots and web hot spots (by website
basis) after turning the mac off would be very useful.  Landmarks has been
added to the iPhone, perhaps this could be added to the Mac too?
>> 
>> 7.   JAWS has the ability through scripting to make unaccessible
applications accessible.  This is not an ideal long term solution but it is
a temporary fix and the ability to share these scripts with others etc would
make the likes of Microsoft Office etc accessible until they finally get
around to following Apple's accessibility guidelines.
>> 
>> 8.   A keybaord shortcut to read out battery status when using a laptop.
Or even better still, when pressing the battery status button on the side of
the macbook, enable voiceover to detect  that button press and act on it.
>> 
>> 9.   When setting password protection on the Mac, VoiceOver is not set as
default to alert the user that they need to enter their password.  even
though VoiceOver might be set as the default to come on once you have
successfully logged onto the mac, you have to manually set in the accounts
preferences to enable voiceover to run on the login screen.  
>> 
>> Ok over you to guys now...
>> 
>> Chris 
>> 
>> 
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> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
> Pete Nalda
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