Hi Nancy, I will dig up that article and I thought it had gone to your Gmail address. Also, what I was thinking of is the use of a bluetooth scanner. This would make it possible to use the scanner and iPhone in the field as it were. I understand it would interface with the website, but what I envision is the ability for the scanner to send the data to the software on the iPhone. Does this help? Maybe we're talking the same thing, just on different pages in the book. :)
tnx, On Jul 12, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Nancy Miracle wrote: > Hi Scott, > > You noted that you had an article on this topic. I don't see that I have a > copy of it. Could you send it to my gmail address? > > As I noted earlier, our website does interface with the Metrologic scanner or > any other scanner that connects via USB or emulates a keyboard. > > > > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: > Nancy, > > I neglected to comment on this statement, but I agree and that statement was > rather insulting. I have to say that as much participation as you and others > have demonstrated on these e-mail lists, shows a level of commitment. > I see lots of potential in this application and although I do not have > one of those bluetooth laser barcode readers, I have thought about it. Like I > said, for me it would just speed up the process, but then I suffer from lack > of patients. :) Although now that I have gotten better with scanning barcodes > with the camera, I have shorten the time it takes. However, I see the > bluetooth scanner as a way to potentially make it easier for vendor operators > to take inventory, possibly blind people to work in retail doing a number of > different tasks, and so forth. I see the scanner as a natural extension to > DigitEyes. Of course I sent you that article that I still see possibilities > with. I'm so full of ideas, but then some say I'm just full of it. :) > On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:25 AM, Nancy Miracle wrote: > >> Actually, I'd disagree with that last statement. We have a lot of >> incentive to improve it because we want our customers to be happy and if you >> are not happy, we are not happy either. >> >> Nancy Miracle >> Digital Miracles, L.L.C. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Bryan Smart <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Yes; I'd be happy if they allowed us to use a Bluetooth laser scanner. Even >> though a separate device would be required for the higher quality scans, >> there are small scanners available. Beyond that, the important fact is that >> the CPU portion (the iPhone), is very mobile. We can, today, use a computer >> with a scanner to identify objects. Carrying a computer around the house >> isn't handy. Carrying an iPhone to do the processing, though, isn't that >> difficult. So, for me, there would still be value. >> >> I suggest that they retain the functionality with the built-in camera, but >> allow Bluetooth scanning for those that can purchase a scanner. >> >> I'm not sure that I'm going to pursue a refund, but I'd encourage others to >> withhold their money until the scanning quality has been addressed. If you >> just buy the program as-is, they have little incentive to improve it. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Howell >> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:31 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes >> >> Bryan, >> >> I have used this application successfully with several types of packages. I >> have found cans to be particularly tricky. I can tell you that my greatest >> success seem to be starting out with my 3GS against the item, and once I >> started the scan, slowly back the phone away from the item. Again, this >> worked for me on several items. I have not run all over the house grabbing >> everything with a barcode, so I can't say that I have encountered every >> possible packaging type and this refers to shiny packaging, different color >> combinations, etc. I don't even know for sure if these are factors. I agree >> it would be nice if an external laser barcode reader could be used because >> this would seriously speed up the process of scanning items in a store etc. >> I put that suggestion out there and not sure if it will be considered or >> not. I realize carrying such a device does defeat some of the purpose >> perhaps, but it does allow for additional opportunities, such as someone who >> maintains inventory etc. Perhaps you have and if not, share your experiences >> and suggestion. >> On Jul 8, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: >> >> > I'm writing to share my experiences with Digit-Eyes. >> > >> > I tried it on my iPhone 4, with several bar codes, and it didn't recognize >> > even one of them. I don't mean that the code was located, but not >> > recognized. I mean that the code was not even detected as being in the >> > image. I'd tap the scan button, and the constant clicking would begin to >> > let me know that scanning was in progress. I was scanning in a brightly >> > lit room, and the screen curtain was not on. Rotating the containers in >> > front of the iPhone camera, with it held about a foot away from them, >> > produced no results. I had a sighted friend deliberately place the bar >> > code in view, something that I would have not been able to do on my own, >> > and it wasn't recognized, either. We just kept trying different angles, >> > and rotating, but all we got was more clicking from the Digit-Eyes scanner. >> > >> > I had some experience with creating a system like this several years ago. >> > At that time, CCD cameras were not as accurate. Even so, for best results, >> > we determined that a 3D laser scanner would be required in order for bar >> > codes to be detected in the way that a blind person is likely to present >> > them to the scanner: at angles, in shadow, etc. This is the technique used >> > by other commercial systems like the ID Mate. I was lead to understand >> > that this wasn't a concern with Digit-Eyes, due to the higher quality >> > camera in the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. However, based on my results, I'd >> > say that this isn't so. >> > >> > Perhaps Digit-Eyes works better with dedicated labels, but, if I were >> > to make dedicated labels, I'd just create Braille labels. I realize >> > that everyone doesn't read Braille, and so audio labels still might be >> > of use to some people. However, the advertised function of being able >> > to read bar codes seems to not work, or else, it might work, but >> > requires a level of alignment precision that I've not been able to >> > achieve. I'm usually quite capable when it comes to reasoning through >> > these types of situations, so my conclusion is that I've either >> > overlooked something profound, or else the level of alignment that is >> > required for a good scan is grater than most blind people will >> > independently obtain without assistance. If you need assistance, you >> > might as well ask the sighted person what is on the label. *shrug* >> > >> > I'd like to hear the experiences of others. However, I can't personally >> > suggest that anyone spend the $30 that is charged for this app if they >> > expect to use it as a bar code scanner. >> > >> > Bryan >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "MacVisionaries" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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