Well, the same thing can be accomplished when not interacting with the table, simply by arrowing down once you've heard the info you wanted. Best, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> I like the interacting in mail, because it prevents me from having to listen > to all of the columns for each message. I interact with the messages table > and go to the subject column. Then when I arrow through my messages, that's > the only column I hear, trust me, you can get through your messages quite > fast that way. > On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Yeah, >> >> in mail the concept seems a bit redundant. Never thought about it till you >> said it. I like the interacting in other apps though. Like iTunes and >> Garageband. >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi Ray, >>> >>> Fair points. But, if I'm, say, reading an email message, then clearly I've >>> decided to interact with it, otherwise I would have just deleted the >>> message. So, to then have to take the additional step of interacting, >>> seems redundant, at least to me. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> >>>> Donna, you read much too much in to what I said. I did not imply that you >>>> don't like the Mac, rather, I was addressing the concept of interaction. >>>> At first, it seemed foreign to Sarah, but, after she got in to my Mac, she >>>> saw the logic of it. Personally, I like the concept of interaction; >>>> particularly with browsing. For example, what if you come across a frame >>>> on a page. You may or may not want to examine it. IF you do need or want >>>> to, you can interact with it so you can pay attention to it. IF you don't >>>> want to, however, you can just ignore it and move on to the next thing. I >>>> don't want assumptions made for me about what I want to pay attention to >>>> or not; and, the concept of interaction gives me the freedom to make that >>>> choice for myself. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>>> >>>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >>>> >>>> E-Mail: >>>> rforetjr at comcast dot net >>>> Skype Name: >>>> barefootedray >>>> >>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ray, >>>>> >>>>> I didn't say I don't like the Mac, quite the contrary. I just think that >>>>> having to interact is annoying, and serves no real purpose. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> With respect, I cannot agree. My lovely constantly barefooted Fiance >>>>>> thought the same thing at first; but then, she had a go with my Mac >>>>>> while she was down here visiting me; and, now, she really has taken to >>>>>> it. Now, she's not to the point of switching herself, but, she has now >>>>>> got the confidence that if she did switch, she could use a Mac very >>>>>> well. It took her no more than the time of one afternoon to get her >>>>>> teeth in to it enough to get browsing that very evening. The concept of >>>>>> interaction seemed foreign to her before she tried it, but now, to her, >>>>>> it's quite logical. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> E-Mail: >>>>>> rforetjr at comcast dot net >>>>>> Skype Name: >>>>>> barefootedray >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, so that's the problem. Arg. You know, if the Apple genie would >>>>>>> grant me just one wish, it would be that this whole interacting concept >>>>>>> would just disappear. It just isn't natural! *grin* >>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi donna, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It does read from the point of the cursor. You just need to interact >>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hth >>>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I haven't followed this thread too closely, so first, my apologies if >>>>>>>>> I'm bringing up something that has already been covered. But I have >>>>>>>>> this same problem trying to read to the bottom of text. For example, >>>>>>>>> when reading a long email, if I press VO-A, it will read the whole >>>>>>>>> message, even if I'm already halfway down the message body. I do >>>>>>>>> wish there were some way to make VO start reading where you are, >>>>>>>>> instead of back at the top of the document. Note that the one >>>>>>>>> exception for this seems to be in Safari, where pressing VO-A reads >>>>>>>>> from cursor to end. >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, it seems to read past it. For example, if you are replying to >>>>>>>>>> an email and you just want to read up to the point where your cursor >>>>>>>>>> is, you can read line by line or paragraph, or hit VO a or B, but >>>>>>>>>> it does not stop at the cursor, it continues reading past it and >>>>>>>>>> starts reading the previous text from the message you are replying >>>>>>>>>> to. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Of course you can stop VO manually, but it would be nice if it >>>>>>>>>> stopped automatically. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>>> On 10 Aug 2010, at 03:56, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>>>>>>> I thought vo a was suppose to read from top of page to your cursor. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> mary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mary Otten >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email 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