Hi Geoff: Think I missed something here. How do you tab to the preview pane. If I don't interact with messages, I just get the row. The preview pane is in a scroll area below, and I'm using Vo-j to check it out. Sometimes, I can hit enter, and it reads. At other times, I'll hit enter and then have to interact with the scroll area to read. A real PITA for sure. If anyone understands what's happening here, feel free to chime in. My apple trainer didn't really get why it was happening. TIA
Carolyn Haas [email protected] On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:59 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > John, > > This is great -- sure beats either vo-j or control-touch. And imho vo-a kind > of sucks because one must totally remove the right hand from the home keys to > pull it off, unless you want to remap an option key to the right on a Macbook > and confuse people when they need to use it. Two finger flick down seems to > be the choice here. > > Really glad to know about tabing to the preview pane though -- surprised I > didn't already discover that!! > Geoff > On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > >> A >> 2. VO-A will generally work the same as read from cursor. (I think of >> it as read all, as a mnemonic), but that is probably from earlier >> versions of VoiceOver. >> >> Jon >> couple of points here. >> >> 1. Using the tab / shift-tab works well from shifting between the >> preview and the list of mail items. >> >> On 15/10/2010, GEOFF WAALER <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I tried this technique, but decided to restore the default of showing the >>> headers because for me it seems more efficient to exploit the preview pane. >>> >>> Under the navigation tab of voiceOver utility I unchecked the box labeled: >>> "Automatically interact when using tab key". This way I am not interacting >>> with the mailbox view, and all fields usually are announced as was the case >>> with Outlook. In the event that VO only says "blank" I can either press up >>> and down arrow or read the fields with "move right" (vo+arrow keys or >>> left/right flicks via trackpad commander) to ascertain the information. >>> >>> To read in the preview pane I can press either trackpad touch + control or >>> vo+j. For some reason the text is only read automatically when I use the >>> latter even though they are purportedly equivelent, but I digress. I >>> generally use the trackpad to quickly skim a message. This way I can >>> quickly skip the junk at the top about reading in a web browser, etc. Also >>> the two finger flick down will read to the end or two finger flick up reads >>> from the top. Not sure what the keyboard equivelent is for this -- probably >>> involves a twenty key combination <smile>. >>> >>> Take care. >>> Geoff. >>> >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Neil. >>>> >>>> When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when >>>> you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command >>>> h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you >>>> want to know who the message is from. >>>> >>>> Kawal. >>>> >>>> Kawal Gucukoglu >>>> >>>> On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by >>>>> thread. >>>>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> All, >>>>>> >>>>>> is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation >>>>>> view, >>>>>> in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so >>>>>> that >>>>>> you can delete entire threads if you wish. >>>>>> >>>>>> I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail >>>>>> address I >>>>>> have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>>>>> >>>>>> Neil Barnfather >>>>>> Talks List Administrator >>>>>> >>>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >>>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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