Hello Michael,

If you do not like how Growl currently works with the Speech style, please 
consider fixing it yourself or wait until someone takes the time to do so 
patiently. I'm sure nothing is preventing you from changing it, either on a 
personal level or getting it bundled in a future release of Growl. I would fix 
it for everyone, but I sadly don't have time enough to do so, even though it 
doesn't actually take that much to change the behavior. it requires you read a 
lot, though, if you want the knowledge of completing the work.

The Speech style isn't perfect. Bottom line is...if you don't like it now, 
don't use it. I strongly urge you to pick up the pieces and change the style 
slightly if you would like. I'm currently trying to re-write some of the speech 
style entirely, allowing you to have more control over the various styles in 
general, though that is currently on hold.

Other developers of Growl (including me) will most likely tell you the same 
thing I'm telling you right now, given that Growl is an open-source project and 
everyone can contribute :). Please, don't complain. Everyone is currently 
working on their own projects and Growl improvements/bug fixes or enhancements, 
and not a lot of attention is being given to the Speech style at the moment. 
Unfortunately, sometimes other matters are much more serious than the Speech 
style. Don't get me wrong, because I understand your frustration. However, I 
will say this again...nothing is preventing anyone from changing the behavior. 
I'm sure we have some smart people on here...in fact, I know that is the case. 
I also know that someone is probably going to ask: "Well, if it's so easy...why 
doesn't anyone do it?" I'll answer in advance, and if I'm wrong in my 
predictions then you'll get the answer anyway. :)

If you want the change badly, try to understand how to develop Growl. If you 
can't understand how to program, ask someone to help you who might have an idea 
or try to contact someone privately such as myself to guide you through the 
reading material. Of course, your third possibility is to just wait for a fix. 
I won't disagree that the fix is long overdue by now, and it should have been 
taken care of many releases ago. However, as I said above...regardless if it is 
a small matter or not, sometimes, no one touches that particular style for ages 
because there are more important bugs to be squashed, or more common feature 
requests to be implemented and polished.

I'm not trying to be snappy, but I'm just tired of hearing the same complaint 
over and over when nothing is stopping you from changing all of Growl to your 
preference by getting the developer kit, then proceeding  to build Growl. I'm 
sorry if you take this in any way that may seem offensive or belittling, as 
that is not my intent. :)

Take care everyone. :)

Regards,
Nic
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On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:

> well nothing works with adium and growl  I didn't realise tat there was 
> anther update, but everthing else works at least somewhat with growl... I 
> still think we need a real irc client made to be accessible and not dependant 
> on growl, since growl speaks everything on top of each other if text comes 
> too fast
> On Nov 12, 2010, at 3:38 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> 
>> hmmm,
>> in what function is it not working with adium?
>> 
>> I hear all the chats 9sometimes 2 or 3 at a time). I usually don't turn on a 
>> great many functions as they can get distracting.
>> 
>> -Eric
>> 
>> On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:19 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> this brings up an interesting problem  I am trying to use adium with growl 
>>> and it does not work, even after I had someone who can see and is a mac 
>>> guru try and fix it. I am trying to se it for irc chat rooms. I'd love to 
>>> hve something hat works as well as mirc did with jaws on windows, then I 
>>> coul happily walk away from windows altogether, well except for mudding hat 
>>> still really shines with vip mud in wondows, and nothing here I know of wks 
>>> properly
>>> 
>>> Mchael
>>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Nick, am I to understand that you actually wrote the code for Growl?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely, 
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Skype Name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 5, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Austin
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is due to the way the style currently handles speech. Previously, it 
>>>>> did not obey speech preferences either. I am working on a fix, however, 
>>>>> for the issue with multiple notifications being spoken on top of each 
>>>>> other. I cannot promise the new improvement will be in the coming update, 
>>>>> though, as I have other priorities, studying being one of them. Of 
>>>>> course, anyone with the knowledge to complete it is of course quite 
>>>>> welcome to change the behavior.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Nic
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>>>>> On Nov 5, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> So people told me to get Growl, a message notification system. I 
>>>>>> definitely see the advantage. I set it to use the speech style, and 
>>>>>> customized my speech preferences. I installed Growlmail. It reads the 
>>>>>> alerts, but one problem: it reads them all at once! I heard like ten 
>>>>>> message alerts all read at the same time over top of each other. It 
>>>>>> sounded, for lack of a better word, trippy. Do I have to change a 
>>>>>> setting to get it to read them one after another? Do I have to use 
>>>>>> another style? Can I not use Growl? Thanks.
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